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Other sports like soccer, football even basketball has advanced with sports science and nutrition. You see track and field records get broken. Swimming as well. NFL combine you see more 300 lbs athletes run ridiculous 40s and you see more and more db, wr, rb etc run sub 4.3 40s. Strength sports you see a record broken every other week.

I don't feel that with boxing. Too much cherry picking and underhanded tactics around. Even Canelo who I rate highly has pulled off shady shit like doping in the GGG rematch. Fucking tyson fury heavyweight champ at the time getting embarrassed by ngannou who has never boxed professionally mma champ or not. (Thank goodness for usyk showing what a real boxing champion looks like). Boxers like crawford, charlo, brooks, mikey garcia, constantly jumping up two weights for terrible fights that mostly turn into mismatches. Pacquiao at his age being fast tracked to a title shot with barrios which derailed the undisputed talks. Jake paul being ranked 14 at cruiserweiht after Chavez who never won at cruiser, Mike tyson who was damn near 60 with a myriad of health problems.

Then there is the fact that boxing in the Olympics is being removed due to too much corruption in AIBA. The talent pool in boxing was dire before its gonna be much worse. Most people don't wanna be punched in the head so it shouldn't be surprising that its dire. Sport ain't gonna die but good lord its in a terrible state outside of the lower weights like Inoue weight and lower. Once that Riyad season honeymoon period goes away its gonna be long.

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[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I completely agree with you. If I had children I would firmly refuse to let them do boxing or tackle football. Unfortunately, overwhelming evidence of direct harm seems to not be enough for many people to ban these sports

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Shit I did it all. Boxing, mma, rugby, even in soccer heading CTE is a risk. Now I have a fuckton of health issues. That and military. For combat sport a lot of the damage is done in sparring. A lot of old school sparring wars we did were more brutal than the matches.

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just another way to keep the working poor down....

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It has a fucked up history. It was very popularly practiced back then by aristocrats but it grew in prominence among the working class and the aristocrats realized they wanted no smoke in it.

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

Thankfully we have invented the perfect 'sport' for the aristocracy: golf!

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

American football is so wildly popular that I don't think it'd ever get banned in the US. The silver lining is that rules changes are making CTE and head/neck injuries less common (the kinds of tackles and hits that were completely legal even 15 years ago are fucking wild to watch nowadays, straight up helmet-to-helmet contact at full sprint and everyone just shrugged and went back for the next play even as both players are wobbling like they're drunk) to the point where all the other body-wrecking injuries will hit players first so they don't have time to turn their brains to swiss cheese.

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago

I'm glad they are at least doing something, my guess is in the long term we will still see a lot of the same problems

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There were increase of kids dying in football practice due to heat as well. All that gear couldn't have helped

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Definitely not. Football also has a lot of coaches with brainworms about hydration being a reward for hard practice and is primarily played in southern climates, which is not a good combination. Throw in climate change and you get a shitshow.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

The chuds blamed covid vaccines. I'm not joking. No really

[–] mrfugu@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m in the same boat as you and I believe this way of thinking will only become more popular until schools simply don’t have enough players for a(n) (american) football team. Lots of kids with working class parents pretty much have to get involved in an after school activity but men’s soccer is typically the same season as football and the equipment cost is much lower….

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

Added to the list of reasons to pray for the fall of burgerlandia

[–] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Get those kids into POWER SLAP instead. The fact that this "sport" was allowed to exist at all...actually shameful. And I'm a combat sport enjoyer!

[–] semioticbreakdown@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

forgot about that shit. such a gross venture and the fact it was advertised so heavily on the UFC's youtube channel pisses me off so much.

[–] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's just par for the course for Dana & the UFC though. Wish (popular) MMA didn't have to deal with his stink on everything but here we are

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