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[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Military exercises on their own territory as recognized by the United Nations and almost every single country on Earth? What is the issue here?

The Taiwan Province is an inalienable part of the People's Republic of China:

And this is recognized by the United Nations ever since 1971 after UNGAR 2758.

Source, page 546: https://web.archive.org/web/20230503050030/https://legal.un.org/unjuridicalyearbook/pdfs/english/volumes/2010.pdf

Video of the votes happening: https://invidious.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=sfOIEjuXFyU

[–] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

why are you showing me excerpt's from PRC's constitution? Yeah, China claims Taiwan the same way Russia claims Ukraine, I dont care what the aggressor imperialist country thinks, I care what the people within the territory think. And what they wanted was to host a US official in their territory, and then China decided to threaten them. I get the impression folks in your circle have nothing but disdain for the people in Taiwan and dont care what they want.

That UN vote is not about Taiwan being a part of PRC, it's about who represents 'China' in the UN.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That UN vote is not about Taiwan being a part of PRC, it’s about who represents ‘China’ in the UN.

Exactly, and the Taiwan Province is a part of CHINA, which is represented by the government in Beijing (PRC), before UNGAR 2758 it was represented by the government in Taipei (ROC).

"Taiwan" is not a country, regardless of one's position on this they are either a province of the People's Republic of China or of the Republic of China.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

one country's constitution doesnt get to decide the sovereignty of other nations. And that's what you've shown me, plus an unrelated vote in the UN. Neither of these preclude Taiwan as a country. And ignoring the part about what the people within the territory of Taiwan want just confirms for me the inhuman view your circle has of people.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just the PRC's constitution though, it was decided by UNGAR 2758 that the People's Republic of China represents "China", which includes the Taiwan Province inside it's territory.

https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/192054

[–] blazera@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

which includes the Taiwan Province inside it’s territory.

this part is missing. Taiwan isn't mentioned in the resolution.

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Taiwan does not need to be named any more than any other province does, it is just part of China.

UNGAR 2758 made the PRC the representative of CHINA, in which Taiwan was already a province of.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

really weird strategy coming into a discussion with someone who believes in Taiwan sovereignty, and just expect Taiwan being a part of China as a given I'll just accept