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[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

This reminds me of a discussion I was having with Hexbear members on Lemmy recently.

I was suggesting that perhaps it makes sense for the UK to have nukes, for self-defence against other nuclear countries like Russia, China, and potentially even the US, given their unpredictable behaviour. People from Hexbear got angry at this suggestion. One of them suggested that it's immoral to have nukes because nukes are "threatening civilians".

Maybe the OP image of this thread is right though: megalomaniacs are not deterred by words, but they are deterred by weapons (such as nukes). Ukraine was invaded because they didn't have enough deterrents. Iran is currently being bombed because I suppose they also didn't have enough deterrents.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

All weapons of war threaten civilians.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ukraine actually gave their nukes on the promise of future safety. We all saw how that worked out.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. If Ukraine had their own nukes by the time of 2014, or if they had been part of NATO, then maybe Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

"More nukes" is never a good solution to any problem

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps not a good one, but still a solution, when a bear gets overly familiar.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Bear

Beets

Battlestar Galactica

what if your nuclear weapon collection is looking too small? How, other than getting more nukes, does on remedy this problem?