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It seems like it should be sort of a priority for the fediverse to create a high quality alternative to Facebook, which is one of the largest platforms out there, and probably what a lot of people think of when they think of "social media", and yet, the marketing and overall adoption of Friendica is simply abysmal, to put it bluntly.

Issue 1: The super bland and basic on-boarding.

When you visit the main website for friendica, you are greeted with "friendica: a decentralized social media network" followed by a "try it" button. Then when you scroll down, there is basic black text on a white background, explaining things like decentralization, privacy, and interoperability. Do you think that this sort of intro is really going to draw people in? It gives off the vibe of "it is your birthday", a la dwight from the office.

If you click on the "try it" button, you get scrolled to a part of the site that says "Try Friendica" with two sentences that basically say "this website is really complex overall, but don't worry, you can click another button below to browse a list of servers (yes, servers, we are not explaining what that means, just click the button)". The actual server list has a single filter option, language, and if you filter by english, the top server right now is a furry server. If any normie has somehow managed to get this far, they are sure to nope the fuck out at this point.

Assuming you do manage to get past this point, the actual sign up form has way too much information for the average person. The first field is "openID". I'm sure that's useful for those who use it, but why is it the first field? There is also a check box to be added to the public directory, which is checked no by default. What does this mean? It is certainly not explained here. You're not asking for a password? Why not? Oh, because you are making a random password for me I have to copy and paste and then save or change. That's not inconvenient at all. Yet another step of friction for me.

Compare this on-boarding process to other sites on the fediverse. Mastodon has a catchy and succinct explainer on why their site is worth joining followed by a "join mastodon.social" button, or a "pick another server" button. If you go to the servers button, you get several different filtering options, region, interest, sign up process, legal structure, and very notably, a disclaimer that all of these servers have signed a safety agreement. Upon signing up, you first agree to some terms of service, which is very reassuring for those looking for a safe and welcoming platform, followed by entering username, e-mail, password and date of birth. All very straight forward. Lemmy is similarly streamlined and polished, and you don't even need an e-mail to sign up for some servers. Super easy and convenient.

Issue 2: Terrible mascot.

Mastodon has their mastodon carrying a knapsack. Lemmy has the lemming face. Pixelfed has a cute red panda. Friendica has.....some kind of demented looking rabbit with bugged out eyes? Seriously, what the hell is this?

Issue 3: Super basic blog style website.

As alluded to in issue 1, the website is super basic, with almost no polish to it. It looks like someone made it on wordpress. The home page does have some clip art type images and background stuff thrown in here and there, but outside of that, it looks very unprofessional. Again, comparing to sites like Mastodon and Lemmy, which have much more polished and professional looking web design. The clearly put time into making sure new users get a good impression. Friendica puts almost no effort whatsoever.

So these three issues, just from an outsiders glance, are in my opinion some of the biggest things holding back what could potentially be one of the most used sites on the fediverse, at least on the marketing side of things. I do not know how the overall team behind the site is structured, but suffice to say, it needs work.

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

after seeing this, I do not want to get my hopes up… 😂😂😂

That's fair haha. I definitely understand that. Building open source software, or really any software, is frought with possibility of failure. I don't claim to be the survivor who will get through it all, that would be incredibly naive of me to claim. I'm just trying, just like others have tried before me :)

optimal management of Activitypub groups

I definitely plan to support groups. Do you mean anything in particular with "optimal" management? I mean what would be "suboptimal" management? Do you just mean an incomplete implementation?

optimal management of the DB: Piefed has made great strides, while this remains the Achilles heel of Friendica

Are you mostly talking about performance here? Or how do you mean?


Definitely agree images are important. I honestly question the value of RSS feeds. It's not something "normal" users use. It's very much a techy thing. I don't know any non-technical person who even knows what RSS is or has ever even heard of it.

a registration system that combines the features of Mastodon and Lemmy

I plan to support applications and/or invitation trees (like lobste.rs uses). But more could be added I suppose. What features are you thinking of?


Definitely agree moderation is important. I want to ensure moderation is well supported with good moderation tools.

if the system allows formatted posts, a formatting bar is necessary (Lemmy is a great model). Then we should figure out whether to use Markdown or a more precise simplified HTML (BBcode is not the best)

I think you need a WYSIWYG editor. That's what normal people expect.


I'd like to support polls and events. As said before, I want to support all kinds of content ideally.

circle management (like those of Friendica)

What is a circle in Friendica? I'm not familiar.


I'm planning and architecting the system to support filtering and good search functionality. Everything is accessible via the backend API (how else?).

[–] informapirata@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you mean anything in particular with “optimal” management?

I mean this:

  1. activitypub groups must be implemented according to the standards, without making incompatible implementations as Misskey did (and as Mastodon will probably do)
  2. they must be displayed in an intuitive way as Lemmy does (and as Raccoon for Friendica does), that is, allowing you to see a screen with the list of topics only and not with groups of conversations that distract the user

Are you mostly talking about performance here?

Yes, it seems that Piefed has optimized the DB well

I honestly question the value of RSS feeds. It’s not something “normal” users use. It’s very much a techy thing. I don’t know any non-technical person who even knows what RSS is or has ever even heard of it.

I understand, I myself have completely ignored them; but they are the cleanest fruition protocol that currently exists and enhancing them is important (and today every software in the Fediverse does it, with little effort)

I plan to support applications and/or invitation trees (like lobste.rs uses).

Nice!

What features are you thinking of?

Nothing special, but for example with Mastodon I can check the IPs of the subscribers directly from the user interface and I can easily check if the same email has been used, without entering the DB. With Lemmy I can customize the subscription page to give instructions to users waiting for approval.

I think you need a WYSIWYG editor. That’s what normal people expect.

Good idea!

What is a circle in Friendica? I’m not familiar.

In Friendica (and Bonfire) a circle is a list of users to whom I can restrict the visibility of a message. Unfortunately Friendica does it with DFRN, Bonfire I don't know how it does it, but it's very interesting to limit some interactions to groups of friends or distinct groups based on the type of relationship (family, colleagues, etc)

I'm designing and planning the system to support filtering and a good search functionality. Everything is accessible via the backend API (otherwise how?).

Exactly like this

Finally I add that systems like Friendica and Bonfire allow you to manage both multiple accounts (a user can create secondary accounts) and, consequently, also accounts shared with other accounts (delegated accounts). For example, I can create an account for my newspaper and have it managed by fellow journalists who have a Friendica account on my server; or I can create a "Group" account and have it managed by the moderators of the group

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the clarifications and thoughts!