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[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

resistant to corrections and get even more obstinate in the face of hostility

Projection much?

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually it’s a well established psychological phenomenon:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.2466/09.02.10.CP.1.17

Got any actual response to my point or just more arrogant snark?

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

I think you were probably blocked for good reason, but that analysis does not mention a single thing about being obstinate in the face of hostility or aggression. In fact, the paper states "Several studies have tried to analyze components and qualities of resistance to change, but their conclusions have been, to a large extent, divergent." So the answer is actually "We dunno" not a trans person was mean to them for good reason and now they refuse to change.

But yeah, by all means, keep tone policing and mis-representing meta-analysis

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I was blocked because their insult didn’t land and they got upset. If you want to keep looking into it you’ll see, I’m referring to a real phenomenon and how it can affect the success of activism.

Honestly though blocking me for a good faith comment and providing a source kinda backs my point to be honest.

[-] Vodulas@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

You're missing the forrest for the trees. It doesn't matter if people are obstinate in the face of a change in view. Nobody is denying that. The point is that it is not up to oppressed people to be nice to their oppressor. That

  1. Does not work
  2. Is at best tone policing

The problem isn't the reaction to hate, the problem is the hate.

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I heard at the end of World War II the Jewish people all got together and bought presents for Hitler and he was like "Oh wow, I've been so wrong, Jewish people are good!" (it also helped that he watched 21 Jump Street) and then he released them all and that was the end of that. /s

The idea that you can bring your oppressors around by being kind to them is some fucking stockholm syndrome shit.

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