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You're trying to draw a moral equivalence between being a migrant farm worker and being tortured, raped, and killed. I'm genuinely at a loss for words.
I thought that it was a sincere question. That's why I was at a loss for words.
Dairy. Cows have to be kept pregnant so that they keep producing milk.
Animals eat a significant chunk of the plant calories we grow, you know.
Most food is harvested by machines
The point is that less animals = less food needed. And less people need to grow food
And if some people still need to hand harvest food, well, then that's not an engineering problem, but a political one. And either way irrelevant to your statement, because it was then never about the food needed anyway.
"How convenient that reality is aligned with your argument"
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Animals eat food, too. If you eat meat, you're actually creating more demand for crops than you would if you ate the crops directly. Furthermore, migrant workers also work on animal farms, in slaughterhouses, etc. I hear it's not always great.
I guess what I'm saying is, I'm fairly sure that going vegan helps both animals and the children of migrant workers.
One caveat is that I'm assuming you'd eat the same classes of crops that an animal would, namely things like corn and grains. But honestly that sounds about right for most people, vegans included. Many vegans eat a lot of processed shit too lol. (me included)
Edit: I should add that the most commonly suggested vegan diet that I've heard from other vegans is to have rice and lentils as your staple foods. I'm fairly sure those aren't typically harvested by hand, but I could be wrong.