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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How did we get rid of the hole in the ozone layer? Did we all individually cut down on our individual halocarbon usage, saw the hole shrink, and all held hands and sang kumbaya? No, we listened to scientists, and we took action on a government regulation level, and we solved it. Now compare that to oil companies wrecking the planet. We went the individualist route there, and it's done nothing to solve the problem. You're even admitting yourself that your individualist fairy tale nonsense is a distraction! "We can have a whole other discussion about raising minimum wage" (emphasis mine).

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago

Sorry but I don’t follow you.

But yes we should listen to sciencists and other experts.

The minimum wage thing I can explain, in companies where a big part of the direct cost is the wage of the people working there (the service industries like restaurants or accountants etc). Increasing the wage will also increase the price of the services (or goods) they sell. If costs go up they will either have to eat the loss, which is unsustainable or increase prices. Which is what a lot of restaurants have been doing especially since covid. Hence we are paying 3,5+ € for a beer here in The Netherlands.

A way to fix this is to give those people who need it suplemental income using social security. Same way as that the government here in NL pays companies money when they have somebody on parantal leave.

Another downside of reasining the minimum income is that in a lot of countries and or companies the higher wages are based on minimum wage. Often adding a certain percentage on top. So raising the minimum wage will also increase those.

I am all for everyone being able to afford all the basic plus have money extra for fun shir and that’s why I am all for an universal income, but I don’t dig the minimum wage income. However, minimum wage should increase at minimum with inflation until there is a UBI and then even that should increase with inflation.