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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 34 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Awful, just awful.

Y'all, don't go anywhere without some means of self-defense. A pocket stun gun costs $20, or if you live in a country where they're banned, carry a pocket corkscrew with a foil cutter on the end.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 22 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Stun guns, while potentially being intimidating to a lone attacker, are surprisingly ineffective if actually used for defense.

Pepper spray, specifically the type that uses a stream instead of a fine mist, is far more effective at stopping an attack and giving an opportunity to escape.

I recommend POM pepper spray, personally. The smaller versions are 50 state legal.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

It's a good option, no doubt.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I've been hit by a few stun guns, but not the police kind. It hurts sure and it makes a scary noise, but if I were intent on violence they would not stop me.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

The police kind might actually kill you.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Two rolls of quarters are entirely legal to carry, and act as makeshift brass knuckles in a pinch. The additional mass will make you break your knuckles, but you'll be shattering their bones as well.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Shattering your knuckles sounds like a bad idea, especially if your initial defense does not incapacitate your attacker, as it may render you unable to continue to fight back.

As Despoticruin mentioned, a 'tactical' style flashlight or pen would be better options, especially as you can temporarily blind or disorient the attacker(s) with a flashlight as they close the distance.

Should be mentioned any close-in physical defense like that should be a last resort tactic if you cannot escape, and in those situations, a defender would massively benefit from being physically fit and somewhat knowledgeable on how to fight, preferably from classes where you learn to both dish out and take a punch.

Even then, those tools won't give you much of an edge if you're outnumbered. Pepper spray is still the best non-lethal option for areas that allow you to carry it.

[–] despoticruin@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago

If you go this route then hammer, don't punch. I hear that those small steel flashlights with the castellated heads are perfect for exactly that kind of swing.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Definitely not a bad way to go in a pinch.