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submitted 1 year ago by lntl@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

German energy giant RWE has begun dismantling a wind farm to make way for a further expansion of an open-pit lignite coal mine in the western region of North Rhine Westphalia.

I thought renewables were cheaper than coal. How is this possible?

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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

Seymour Hersh broke the story on this. He's famous for breaking the My Lai massacre. The article he wrote is behind a pay wall, but this is a very lengthy interview with from democracy now https://www.democracynow.org/2023/2/15/nord_stream_sy_hersh

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

That seems like one anonymous source for a very wide range of allegations. I hope you do not accept that as absolute fact.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Considering the only party on Earth that benefits from the sabotaging of that pipeline is the US i think it would be very hard for anyone reasonable to ignore. Hersh is also one of the few investigative journalists who has reported on things like this consistently and been correct in the past

[-] noride@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

The only point I'd push back on is that this was only in US interests. Ukraine makes a decent sum allowing Nord 1 to transit over land in their territory, money they would lose with the activation of Nord 2.

Further, regardless of whom you believe committed the act, there is evidence to suggest the targeting of Nord 1 was accidental and the actual intent was to just hit Nord 2.

You could even speculate the destruction of Nord 2 was insurance that the west wouldn't abandon Ukraine since they could no longer flip a switch and take them out of the gas equation.

[-] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Do you know what the US does? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. However, the claim is the US blew up something that didn't belong to them. That is the most ordinary claim. It is so ordinary that if something explodes and you don't know why, it would take evidence to prove we didn't do it somehow

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I advise caution with Hersh's reporting. It was weak to begin with, relying on a single source. It's not improved at all since publication, with no one coming forward even anonymously to corroborate the claims. Seymour Hersh has published important stories, but he's gotten sloppy with this one.

[-] AreaSIX@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

Yes stranger on the internet, the most decorated investigative journalist alive has "gotten sloppy' you say. So who's more credible here, the guy who broke My Lai and Abu Ghraib, reported on Watergate and the secret bombing of Cambodia, won a Pulitzer and a record five Polk awards, or you, some anonymous commenter on the internet, laughably calling it "weak", "cautioning" against it? You don't think other bootlickers in the past have called his reports on My Lai, Cambodia or Abu Ghraib "weak"?

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

His reporting on My Lai was based on internal government documents. Abu Ghraib was already being reported by other sources like Amnesty International, so he was backing up by other reporting there.

Thing is, I'm not asking you to trust me. Not one bit. I'm asking you to apply an appropriate level of skepticism. Common practice for an accusation this serious is to get more people talking. But here, the whole accusation rests on one source. Why should we trust this source? Because Seymour Hersh said they know stuff? And since then, nothing. Now maybe Hersh is still digging and will publish something in the future. If so, I'm all ears. Until, I stay skeptical.

And it's not just me pointing to how Hersh uses anonymous sources as being problematic. His Wikipedia article has a lengthy section covering both criticism and defense.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The US is the most obvious party to have carried this out and is the only one who would benefit.

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