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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate the fucking American media! I found an article but it was a super-lazy garbage job by the reporter. At the very, very end there was this tripe.

While Prevost is seen overall as a centrist, on some key social issues he's viewed as progressive. He has long embraced marginalized groups, a lot like Francis, who championed migrants and the poor. But, also like Pope Francis, the Illinois native opposes ordaining women as deacons, for instance, so on that point he's seen as conservative on church doctrine.

"Progressive" is a word that hardly has any meaning in the US. And that's quintuplely true for somebody like the pope. So - he's not in favor of death camps for the homeless - I guess.

[–] OttoboyEmpire@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

he publicly rejected Vance's defense of Ordo Amoris -- that's something. but doesn't appear that he's a liberation theologian or anything.

and as @funkystuff implies, taking the name leo suggests probably a renewed articulation of Catholic social thinking.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

bro the world will be a nuclear wasteland before there's a liberation theology pope.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

he publicly rejected Vance's defense of Ordo Amoris -- that's something.

As a filthy pagan, what does this mean?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

Vance argued that an old theological doctrine from St Thomas Acquinas meant that Christian love is hierarchical, where one must first love their family, their community, then the rest of humanity.

Provost called him out for completely distorting that doctrine. Provost showed that the implication of Ordo Amoris is not that one must love one's family/community over others, but instead it's just explaining the nature of that love.

To put it in Marxist terms, it's like if a patsoc said that Starbucks baristas are nonproductive labor and don't deserve to benefit from socialism, then Claudia de la Cruz explained how Marx never said one kind of labor is more important than another.