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Trans women should be allowed in sports, but with strict limitations (lemm.ee)

submitted 2 days ago by AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee to c/controversial@sh.itjust.works

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This seems to be a black and white issue for many, always Yes or always No.

As with most thigns I feel the truth is somewhere in the middle.

It's a spectrum

IMO

A biological man who never underwent puberty and never got the benefits of higher testosterone etc. should be allowed in women's sports.

But, someone like Usain Bolt, who because of undergoing male puberty has bigger bones than he would have had if he didn't, should never be allowed to compete in women's sports.

Where we draw the line, I don't know, but I don't think it's black or white.

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[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You clearly have no idea what HRT does to a person's body. This is embarassing for you

[+] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee -6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

IMO having bigger bones is an advance in many sports.

HRT isn't going to make your bone structure significantly smaller

[–] RedSeries@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Michael Phelps is a freak of nature, with an incredible wingspan and a body that produces less lactic acid than nearly every other swimmer. He was allowed to take home 23 gold medals, and was only able to do so with those genetic advantages and fucktons of work and training.

Bone structure, height, or hand size clearly do not matter to people at the highest levels, and likely matter even less when you're playing in your high school or college soccer league.

And I mentioned the work and training aspect because without that, Phelps would be very good, but not 23-gold-medals good. You're boiling down women's sports to essentially hand size and genetics. Best get out the calipers to start measuring skull sizes (/s).

Can you even name 5 women athletes without looking them up? Do you really care about women if you're trying to subject them to this scrutiny to "catch" an incredibly miniscule part of the population? Are women with PCOS or other endocrine disorders not allowed? How would you even test for this shit? You can't even give us clear definitions of what "fair" would be.