What a breath of fresh air your comment is, thank you. The sheer absolute HATE I've been getting in this thread and others is so incredibly toxic and frustrating. I'm literally at the point where I'm like, you know what, you're right, stay the fuck at home and stay away from my team because I don't need that vitriol in my life.

I saw a thread recently here or on Reddit maybe hating on presentations and group assignments in school. It wasn't until I got to management that I realized how incredibly important those skills are.

Personally I'm convinced that it isn't "people don't want to work anymore." More like "people fucking suck at working together, on big projects, remotely, and friggin communicating as a team. So the sucky deadweight employees don't do squat, and the good ones are frustrated as hell, overburdened with their shithead colleagues work that the rest of us have to do now.

Sorry for the rant but this is fucking my shit up big time, and it's really hard getting all this pure hatred online by toxic people who refuse to even pick up the damn phone when I call to ask "how did you compute such and such" or whatever.

I think a call center would be very intimidating for me. The onslaught of calls from different people, all grumpy, sounds a bit much. I guess it's a range or a spectrum or whatever. Still it's a generational thing though and the floor is way lower than it was pre-Covid IMO. Like it's normal to have some anxiety but you can't go your whole career terrified of phone calls. It's just really annoying and weird.

I'm getting flamed in this other thread about returning to office and it's so frustrating. All the haters over there are the same people terrified of phone calls like the girl in this comic, all want full remote, all terrible communicators.

Im just gonna copy paste because I don't think I can summarize it better:

The word “neurotypical” is an informal term used to describe a person whose brain functions are considered usual or expected by society. This term is often applied to people who do not have a developmental disorder like autism, differentiating them from those who do. It is neither a mental disorder nor even an official diagnostic term.

I chose the word NT because I think it's the least divisible label.

I don't choose or want to be neurodivergent, I'm reminded by NTs that I'm not normal in everyday life through social games and hints that I don't understand.

Correct, DSM has pushed this notion that correlation and diagnosis of symptoms are well understood when under the DSM they are more loose associations of symptoms that say nothing of cause. You wouldn't group and heart attack and a broken rib as the same illness just because they both have the same symptom of chest pain. This isn't to deny the real symptoms people have though.