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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 19 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Facts exist, but we can't ever be certain of them. We do not experience reality. We experience what our fleshy input devices capture and transmit to our brains; our brains invent "experience" based on those inputs.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I am certain of the fact that Mt. St. Helens is a volcano that exists. I am certain of the fact that it erupted prior to my existence upon this planet, and while I have never laid my own eyes upon this volcano, though not for lack of experience I remain certain of its existence based on the shared experiences and existences of millions of others, and the data they have accrued.

I get what you're saying with the whole "objective" part of objective reality; but it's not like you're going to mount a defense against the existence of Mt. St. Helens, right?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Someone else mentioned Descartes - "I think, therefore I am" - which is the only thing we can know with 100% certainty. There is "is-ness" and "I exist".

That's not exactly what I'm talking about here, but it applies.

In practical terms, we experience predictable outcomes based on accepting certain things as being true. That's different from those things actually being true.

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 months ago

You're thinking like an academic, which is often alien and "wrong" to the broader populace, just like a properly labelled graph (according to a previous discussion on Lemmy, lol).

But I agree. In engineering one quickly learns the difference between the "perfect" and "real" world. In the perfect world, you can assume that 1+1 always equals 2, gravity always goes down, wind resistance is 0, and our scientific model (of any given time and version, choice is yours) is always correct.

In the real world nothing makes sense, nothing fits, you're lucky if 1+1=2 within a ±0.1 error, and did you just discover the topic for another weird research project? Shit.

And does @kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 's Mt. St. Helens really exist? No clue, I'll take anyone's word for it. One could drag me up some random mountain and tell me that's it, but, in the end, I'd just be spewing someone else's opinion. (which is good, agreement must be had to do anything productive, but we're currently talking objectivity, and not agreement.)

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