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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 52 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I said this before…when the fuck do we rise up? Or are we going to sit in the pot and boil?

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think you guys are going to sit and boil.

If you ask me, things should have started burning a few months ago.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Unfortunately, this is a exactly what Trump wants. He wants riots and chaos so he can declare martial law and gain even more power and possibly delay or even cancel elections. All of this is calculated.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

He wants riots and chaos so he can declare martial law and gain even more power and possibly delay or even cancel elections.

And the alternative is sit and let ICE blackbag innocents?

The US has the 2nd amendment, which they love so much. ICE should be getting gunned down in the street by this point.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This is how you guarantee trump’s third term.

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's already happening. America can passively accept their country is gone, or they can fight to try and save it.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

And the minute they begin to fight, Trump locks it all down and America enters into a martial law that I guarantee won’t end before his third term.

If there’s an uprising- it’ll have to be all-or-nothing- and that nothing will come at a heavy cost.

I really hope people know this is exactly what he wants. You’re being baited into giving him everything he needs.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Ok so what, work within the system? The clearly ineffectual system which isn't working?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Man, y'all people think we don't know what "implying" something is or what "reaching a natural conclusion" is. Going "oh well that's not what I said" isn't a gotcha. I swear reading comprehension is at an all time low if you think everything has to be said directly.

So ok, I'll bite, what's your glorious solution? What should we do oh wise one?

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

If I'm not mistaken, a full national declaration of martial law would require not only approval of individual state legislatures, but also the loyalty of the military and the National Guard in every state.

By bypassing laws and regulations, totally disregarding checks and balances now that mechanism is compromised, the bastard need not to declare martial law to spread terror.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I dunno about that. This was more or less Chuck Schumers approach to passing his agenda. If you fight him it's going to get worse, so don't fight? I feel foreign nationals shouldn't be leading the charge because of their vulnerability, but for full-fledged us born citizens following the law with their rebuke, surely many would martyr themselves for a historical rally against fascism knowing the ACLU would defend them.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Oh we should absolutely be fighting but not with guns. We should be fighting with the law and protests. We should be confronting these fuckers at every junction. But the moment we pick up a gun or a rock or some other violent means we just give them the excuse to escalate the fascism.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

I think you’re 100% correct.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I blame the "fuck you got mine" mentality that's become ingrained in Americans. A revolution requires selflessness but Americans aren't equipped for that.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed, things haven’t been good for years. But since Covid this country went from “we the people” to “me, me, me.”

[–] admin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel it started before and it was like that before covid. I'm gen Z and I remember around 2017 the rise of popularity of songs about "me me me being the #1 gang banger the gangster, them bitches love me, them ni**as hating" among the people in my age group, and it sorta just grew from there.

What I noticed during covid and once TikTok style videos became mainstream was sort of a "normalization" or acceptance of the phenomena mentioned above.

Remember Wall-E were everyone in the future is a fat individualistic human being, connected to a bed on wheels with a screen and everyone seems to be doing their own thing with no resemblance of families, couples, friends, goals?

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago

Agreed I’m 42 and personally growing up in the late 80s and 90s I feel like Regan and Rush Limbaugh were both a big influence on the situation the country is in now. And honestly, you can go back to Nixon and JFK getting assassinated as the main focal point from when America stopped being America and became more conservative and for the money and for the wealthy.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kinda hard when only 55% of people disapprove of your king.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Allegedly, it only takes 3.5% of a population to enact change through nonviolent protests. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

Maybe give that an honest try first? Hard to unring a bell.

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where the hell have you been for the last few years? Americans won't do shit. The tech oligarchy and the facists have the population exactly where they want them to be, struggling and unable to take actions.

[–] admin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Struggling economically and doom scrolling from the moment they wake up, until they go to bed.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

when the fuck do we rise up?

As long as there’s an internet to keep the keyboard warriors happy enough to just complain about it online and then walk away feeling like they’re part of the resistance?

Never.

And the moment there is an uprising, you’ve just given Trump his reason to secure a third term. So, there’s that.

From where I see it- the only way to fight this is to create a functional time machine and go back and tell the ninety one million people smooth-brained dipshits that sitting their asses and whining about genocide in a country they couldn’t have even pointed to on a map a year and a half ago- would result in everything happening now.

This was avoidable.

And now we have to contend with the possibility of having to participate in an absolute shitshow of a bloodbath as the only means to regain the freedoms we had just a few months ago?

I honestly don’t know who’s worse; the far left protest voting- dumbasses that helped put us here, or the far right MAGA voting dumbasses that wanted to put us here.