Late Stage Capitalism
A One-Stop-Shop for Evidence of our Social, Moral and Ideological Rot.
(It is also the official version of r/LateStageCapitalism/ on the Fediverse)
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News, discussion, memes, and links criticizing capitalism and advancing viewpoints that challenge the narratives which act as legitimations for the status quo of modern class society. Posts need not be about capitalism specifically, whether late-stage or otherwise; we simply aim to cater to a socialist audience.
We do allow links to threads and comments on Lemmy/Reddit, as long as they are relevant to the content guidelines and follow the rules. Use NP links, or your post will be deleted.
Philosophy:
This community has its roots in broad-based anti-capitalist thought, with an emphasis on Marxist concepts and analysis and a commitment to antiracism and inclusive feminism.
When it comes to proposed alternatives to Capitalism, it is the general consensus of this community that class-divisions and alienated labour must be abolished; production must be collectively organized by the laborers themselves for the direct benefit of all. We call this socialism.
Find out more here: The Principles of Communism
Rules:
1. Lemmygrad-wide rules apply. Behavior such as brigading and harassment won't be permitted. Neither will posts that can be interpreted as explicit threats of/calls for violence.
2. Any post that makes a claim should have a RELIABLE source or explanation in the comments by OP. All claims, news articles, tweets and so forth that are an example of LSC should be substantiated with a reliable, factual and verifiable source. Any posts that egregiously break this rule will have their poster temporarily banned. If the Automoderator deletes the comment with sources that's fine, the moderators can still see and restore it.
3. No trolling. "I was just trolling" won't be accepted as a defense for breaking rules, and we will ban for intentionally disruptive behavior or attacks on our community, users, or philosophy.
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This is regarding positive posts or posts agreeing with their statement. Negative posts are permitted but better suited to communities like /c/ShitReactionariesSay
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No. Fuck no.
Not even bothering to make an improvement in a person's living conditions, even while the means are available, and skipping directly to killing someone is evil.
It is absolutely evil, I just don't think it's worse than the US in any way other than optics.
This is a layer of transparency to the degree of societal neglect someone who chooses this option has gone through, a layer of transparency to how committed their society is to continuing that neglect. They choose this because it's not worse than what they are already going through. Removing this option without addressing the neglect is not better, it's just people dying of poverty instead.
You are wrong. I do not know what other post of yours got removed so I will go off of this one.
I understand your perspective, and why you feel the way you do, but you are extremely wrong. The reason you are wrong is that you have not considered what institutionalization of this social murder means. Where it leads.
You are buying the liberal marketing on this. "It's humane because otherwise theyd die slowly." This is simply an excuse. A way to get people to agree to the murder. It completely ignores the fact that the dying slowly part is entirely preventable.
That is not even the worst part. This is simply a step one. You do this program for awhile, and people will get used to it. Euthanasia becomes a normal thing for the liberal state to carry out, and to suggest to people. They begin to suggest it more forcefully. Until it isn't a suggestion anymore.
You are disabled, you get a letter in the mail. "Your benefits have hit their limit. Please report to X facility for end of life assistance."
You refuse, and do not go. Police come, and escort you there. "it's the humane thing to do. Otherwise you'll just end up on the street." You are killed.
Homeless people who do manage to survive on the street begin to be arrested, and given a choice. Take the injection, or go to a specialized "work center". Its you're choice. Enslavement or death. choose.
This wouldn't happen thats such a leap to take. How can you suggest we would just put people down like rabid animals? You might say.
What was the twisted logic behind doing these in the first place? That these people are a drain on state resources, and this would save money? Follow that logic to its inevitable end and this is where it leads.
Not to mention, who makes these injections? This is capitalism someones making a profit off of each time a person is euthanized this way. That someone has every reason to lobby for more injections as they benefit personally from there being more.
Lobbyists will call it the "solution to homelessness, drug addiction, and an end to suffering. A Final Solution." Oh that sounds familiar doesn't it?
Welcome to Canada.
That's the thing, that basically does happen here in the US, except without the option to choose death over enslavement. The homelessness-to-prison pipeline is a very real thing, and prisons are privatized so there's already incentive. It's already that bad here.
Your point that this would get normalized is probably right, I was thinking of it as if it's presented as a choice, it will be natural for people to ask what would compel someone to make that choice, which is what desperately needs public attention. I'll think that over.