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[–] Hismama@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe if wages actually rose with productivity, Americans could actually afford goods made within the United States.

[–] MisanthropiCynic@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s not even about wages. The precision tooling and engineering equipment would probably take a decade of development to get the US equivalent with China. We just don’t have it here.

And it’s not about rising wages with productivity. Americans by and large don’t want to work in factories or manufacturing. The pay would have to be astronomical to fill the needed positions.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The pay WOULD be astronomical if it had kept pace with CEOs, that's the point

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

wouldn't higher wages make stuff cost more? I'm kinda confused

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The sheer amount of money being removed by the 1 percent is regoddamndiculous. It's something like 45 trillion dollars since wages diverged from productivity in 1975.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And it's only speeding up now that we have a cabinet of billionaires for billionaires.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

And they're pumping and dumping the market every single day.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

CEO pay can mitigate that if they're willing to make less.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

But then how would they afford multiple cars, planes, and houses?

/s

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Hahaha

This whole presidency is raised for maximizing CEO income and no taxes for everyone at the top.

It will be interesting if Trump actually manages to pull it off, because he'll make the US swap places with China:
No one trusts the country anymore, but if it has low enough wages and proper production capability it will produce everything cheaply just to export it all overseas where the luxury goods will be sold. Of course all profits will be made overseas, not in the US because hardly anyone can afford the luxury items no more.

Meanwhile the production states will get deep smog clouds and intense small coal particle pollution in return. And the need for face masks will be back....

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's one of the issues with how we've (most western capitalist countries) been doing this.

People are struggling for money so minimum wage goes up. Labour to create things is now more expensive and prices go up.

There is only one solution and that's to theoretically (or technically) eating the rich that are hoarding all of the wealth.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What really needs to stop is the obscene bonus culture. It is quite disgusting to keep reading a company needs to lay off 500 people only to then give some CEO a bonus of 15million. Or banks running a deep 9 digit number loss in a year but still the higher ups get a bonus for some reason or a vague years old contractual promise. The top should feel loss first before it "trickles down", and honest pay for honest work should include the top as well.

And while I am at it, senseless management jobs should be allowed to be contested, no more "manager toiletpaper" who only shows up once a week to make an order, yet makes 5x the wages of people under him.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

That would be one step in the theoretical eating of the rich, yes.