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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're not wrong but more/also that the term is used rather incoherently in an American context.

[–] WereHacker@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you once again. I wont pretend I understand it entirely but a lot of the debate and calling of names makes more sende now. In Europe we define between conservatism, liberalism and socialism. And people often identify by where they are in the mix, if they are into politics

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The word 'socialism' is not allowed in American political discourse. That's why we have to call for 'universal healthcare'. We need 'affordable housing' because building new public housing was outlawed two decades ago. We can barely use the term 'worker' and have to approximate with 'working class' or 'working families'.

We can't even use the language of the left in America.

[–] WereHacker@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

The word 'proletarian' was and is a demeaning term to shame people for being poor. The socialist movement in Europe started to use it as something positive because it meant they werent owners and thus exploiters. Luckily words can be turned around.