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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by speaker_hat@lemmy.one to c/experienced_devs@programming.dev

I looked for Senior Software Developer positions, and one of the things that I've noticed is that lots of enterprises look for people with experience with technologies such as .NET and C#.

I personally HATE Microsoft and their platforms. From my experience they take all the fun from developing by creating stupid compile errors with their stupid gigantic Visual Studio and buggy dependencies. Not to mention their ridiculous resources greedy and unsecured Windows OS! Also there are no healthy and independent communities around a their technologies. They don't open source much of their technologies so it would be easier to hack their tools, and harder to make security patches.

Why enterprises do that for themselves and for their developers?

Do you think enterprises will make a turn in this attitude?

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[-] iammike@programming.dev 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

.NET has been around for two decades. It's a well established technology with plenty of resources, documentation and libraries and frameworks. I guess these are in part the reason it's still thriving.

You're thinking about .NET Framework reading your opinions on it, .NET (Microsoft is terrible at naming) is the "newest" standard and it's fully open source and cross platform. They removed Windows only APIs and embraced the open source way.

While Microsoft is indeed full of shit they did a great move with .NET in the last 10 years.

You don't even need Visual Studio, I use Rider for instance and I love it! I cannot stand Visual Studio either, mostly because I hate its UI/UX.

At the end of the day is matter of preferences, I like .NET and C# and I work with these technologies daily for instance.

[-] count_borrell@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Also, from an enterprise point-of-view, .Net has the same advantages as Java (stability, runs everywhere, backed by a large corp) but is fundamental better designed and doesn't come with the potential legal baggage of being owned by Oracle.

I would argue that .Net is one of the best techs that Microsoft is producing at the moment. I've used it on and off for a number of years and haven't done any development targeting Windows in a decade. It's all be running on Linux servers. The dotNet works great there.

And, 100% agree with using Rider. My hierarchy of .Net IDEs is Rider->Notepad++->Visual Studio Code->manually adjusting the memory on my computer using magnets->Full Visual Studio (whatever they are calling it these days).

[-] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly. C# just works for almost everything and there's very little criticism I could level against it. Modern multiplatform UI is in a bit of a weird spot right now and their product naming is absolutely terrible, but that's about it.
^(I^ ^even^ ^think^ ^that^ ^Visual^ ^Studio^ ^is^ ^pretty^ ^decent,^ ^although^ ^I^ ^still^ ^prefer^ ^Rider^ ^and^ ^Code.)^

Unless there's a good reason to not use C#, like microcontroller programming, it's become pretty much my go-to language, pun not intended.

[-] speaker_hat@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Can you develop .NET over Ubuntu?

[-] iammike@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

Yes absolutely

[-] TehPers@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Worth calling out as well, but modern .NET is maintained by the .NET Foundation, which is a 501(c) (non-profit) organization that MS founded. MS naturally has a lot of influence over the direction of the language and frameworks, but it's more of a symbiotic relationship, and others benefit from and contribute to the work as well.

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