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The ACA is not good. It was a clear example of our political system failing and capitulating to capital interests and the fact that it exists and is in fact arguably the only liberal polical "success" in my lifetime is emblematic of the utter and complete failure of the American political system.
Incorrect, see below for many examples and arguments
Absolutely correct
You'd rather it didn't exist?
The IRA reduced climate change emissions by about 40% from the peak.
Income inequality has actually been going down for the last few years, is that not a good thing?
Marijuana is legal now.
It's not really "legislative," so maybe this is sort of backing up what you were arguing in fact, but policing changed radically between 2014 and 2021, to the point that a lot of the abuses that were commonplace in 2014 actually are now these crazy outliers, and are usually punished with criminal charges for the cops.
I've talked before about how I feel like there are people who like to "paint the tape" of a comments section by leaving a handful of super-forceful comments in one particular direction, to paint the narrative they like to paint, if the comments section starts to develop in a way that they don't like. Try sorting by "top" and compare it to the current comments section, if you want to get a better picture of what the consensus is.
Yeah, I think you're right. I poked my head into these threads to see what was up, mostly because I was confused as to why Obama showed up on BlueSky talking about ACA when there's other stuff going on (trying to understand what he's attempting), and for some reason this topic seems to have gotten the weirdos stirred up hard, mostly as you said with very confidently-worded assertions that appeared suspiciously quickly.
I wonder if it's because they're trying to capitalize on any old hot-button emotional spittakes left over from Obama's days as president. I mean, there's a lot of very important things going on with DOGE and it might serve certain interests well if we're distracted from THAT danger and instead talking about Obama who doesn't seem to be doing anything pertinent at the moment.
I notice that whenever there's a huge discrepancy between how the comments look in the default sort, and how they look when sorted by "top", the topic is always some sort of politics, and the default-sort consensus is always "let's all not vote for Democrats." Usually, the comments are just the comments.
Er... if we're deciding to move the goalposts to "the ACA was a pitiful gift to the insurance companies and betrayal of what should have been, and the Democrats mostly haven't done shit since then, we need real change" then I'll completely agree with you.
If that's what you're saying, of course, then you need to have a chat with the people down below in the comments who said that right after the ACA passed, it started killing people, and we'd be better off without it.
If instead your argument is:
Are you under the impression that if the ACA didn't exist, we would have universal health care?
That the systemic problems that fucked up genuine health care reform into the final mutated form of the ACA would suddenly not exist if only we attacked the ACA enough?
Yeah but people like you talk about it in a way that misses the important point fucking entirely. The ACA is the best the Republicunt party would let Obama get away with at the time, and they fought like hell against it.
Though the Republican party does seem to be getting away with a fucking lot these days...
Then you are remembering incorrectly. I turned 18 the year Obama was elected. I was super dialed in and remember this process very clearly.