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submitted 1 year ago by Joseph_Boom@feddit.it to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Maybe what I'm looking for is the holy grail, but what do you guys suggest as a Distro with a good balance between stability and up-to-date packages?

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[-] octalfudge@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I feel like something like Fedora fits the bill: great, reliable, well-maintained repositories, decently updated kernels, yet never faced any major issues, and access to quite updated packages. Only issue is Red Hat caused a stir recently, though I still believe Red Hat does more good than bad in the open source community.

[-] rodneyck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Red Hat is a corporation, putting dollars first. Not to mention Fedora is now starting to 'trample on user's privacy with telemetry integration.'

Some are making the case that Fedora's new telemetry integration isn't like the bad telemetry like Google and others, it is 'anonymised.' Every corporation says this before they remove the username from the data collected and keep the unique user id. I don't trust Red Hat..and now with this latest reveal, Fedora either. And privacy is all about trust.

[-] NoRecognition84@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Some are making the case that Fedora’s new telemetry integration isn’t like the bad telemetry like Google and others, it is ‘anonymised.’ Every corporation says this before they remove the username from the data collected and keep the unique user id. I don’t trust Red Hat…and now with this latest reveal, Fedora either. And privacy is all about trust.

Please stop with the FUD about the Fedora telemetry. It is opt-in and is no different than popularity-contest on Debian.

[-] jcbritobr@mastodon.social -5 points 1 year ago

@NoRecognition84 @rodneyck its bad anyway. Why a opensource project will do something like that? Telemetry causes bad performance in production. If its opt in, no one will activate, and soon the business will force its use.

[-] NoRecognition84@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You are basing those assumptions on what? Popularity-contest on Debian does not cause any issues.

[-] DigDoug@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

While I admit that the timing with Red Hat's closed-sourcing is really bad, and I'm also going to start avoiding Fedora for the same reason, saying that opt-in telemetry (that one can literally read the source code of) is "putting dollars first" is really dumb. Do you think the same about Debian's popularity-contest, which has existed since 2004?

[-] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I disagree that as the as the article states telemetry "contradicts open-source values", nowhere is it said in the official definition that telemetry by itself is not ok and as long as it is opt-in and the handler makes clear reports on the data they gathered, I'd say it's a good opportunity to give valuable insight to the developers on the use of their software, done in this manner it doesn't trample over anyone's choices either.
Notable examples of open source projects that implement telemetry are KDE and Mozilla, it's not unheard of at all

[-] KingKRool@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm making that case. I trust Fedora and Red Hat to handle telemetry correctly, but I can verify it by looking at the source and I'll give them constructive feedback if I have concerns. May I ask which distro you are planning to use where the source is NOT contributed primarily by engineers working for a corporation that puts dollars first?

[-] cabrio@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
[-] jcbritobr@mastodon.social 0 points 1 year ago

@rodneyck @octalfudge
that's very bad news. #fedora is a nice distribution, but telemetry leads the machine to bad perform.

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