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A lobotomy was a recognized and approved medical procedure. Within a few years in the late 1940s 10s of thousands of procedures were done.
The person who discovered the procedure won a Nobel prize for Medicine for how it helped people with psychosis.
How is it not related?
Because this is a chemical that alters brain chemistry instead?
Would you prefer I state electroshock therapy? Insulin shock? Malarial?
Those last 2 are using compounds instead of physical means.
My point stands that just because it is used in the medical field does not being and end the argument of safety and efficiency. Opiods are considered safe until you have to stop taking them and now we are pushing against the prescription and use of them.
You clearly have a specific predetermined opinion on the matter that makes you insulary from having to accept that their are differing opinions on the matter.
Your threat to my appearance does not diminsh my statement it just proves your bias.
Being open towards the use of drugs does not mean they are free of criticism and should not be used sparingly as the world may yet change on its opionion of the costs of their use yet.
This is not to say people can not take what helps but helping is not always good or an answer long term.
I'm the troll and yet you won't engage in an actual discussion? You are moment to moment demanding that everything you have said is correct or not understanding my point and yet you are wrong about so much, but won't engage to find out so.
You are acting with blatant superiority and pedantry on each individual word I say. You don't respond as if it's a conversation just a stomping ground for your ego.
Look at how you communicate and how you process to act like a singular source of truth in this world. It's appalling and yet you act as if it's correct because you are the one doing it.
Yes, slaver y and lots of things would later go on to be considered a bad method for accomplishing goals. That is my point on overly relying on drugs when especially there is already evidence as with Ketamine that it's damaging to the body.
Insulin shock was a way of treating psychosis and so was giving people malaria to give them a fever strong enough to damage the brain. You don't understand the points being made so you act like you are better informed when you respond with nonsense. Look at all your own smarmy interjections as if they validate you more.
You aren't as informed as you think you are and you aren't solo in deciding what is good in this world. Other people can have opinions and knowledge you don't.
My mother took ketamine on a medical prescription and it ruined her body. She had to get physical therapy to use her hands again to be able to pick up objects.
Stop being a jerk that thinks they are superior and swaps to whatever opinion let's them talk down to others.
You may have changed your mind but you clearly haven't stopped being rude and dismissive of others.
I don't care about who you were and it's unnecessary in this conversation you bring it up as a shield to deflect that you are being a jerk here and now.
So are you. Engage in a conversation then to avoid it and actually speak to the other person instead of over them.
Yeah you grow weary cause you don't know how to talk to people.
This is a terrible response.
I have not implied otherwise by the way I just disagree on the methods and specifics which you refuse to accept. You twist my meaning the same way you insist I twist yours by responding to your actual words instead of your ego. Referring to your upvotes proves you take the wrong opionions and are swayed by whatever gives you confirmation.
It is by your actions that you are responding this way. And insiting that I agree with you and no other option. You can also chose to try a different tactic at any point. Do not blame me for yourself and how you continue to respond.
As if it was ever a discussion with you.
No this is a conversation between us on your words. You insist that you have the backing of everyone when that is an absolute that is disproven by my very nature of being here and disagreeing. Don't use a bias to cover your own logic.
You didn't specify what occasional is and it is not a matter of fact.
You insist I am a target instead of a person conversing. It's rude. And by comparing medical procedures. A point you insist on making.
You have just said that now. Not previously when given a chance to specify. You act indignant while ignoring that you don't specify because you feel safe in your generalized statements that everyone will agree with you. Well I don't on all that you said and pushed back and here you are doing this show as if you have always been right and said everything correctly.
There is no correct and you can try to editorialize this conversation but it will not work as you can not edit me so easily. This tactic of breaking down everything to prove you are right about every point is awful and a rather bad tactic for talking to people. You very specifically are putting words in my mouth by trying to edit each thing I say from your perspective alone.
I don't think you realize, but you are absolutely the one with a bad tactic and a rude know-it-all attitude here as this continues on and on with you. You can defend yourself all you want but it doesn't yet change that you misunderstand and insist your correctness before any conversation has happened.
You easily make others the villain and some target for you to look down and squash from your place of (let me check) upvotes. Congrats. I truly don't care about it and it does not work to make your point for you. You are still the unreasonable person here immediately jumping to tactics that are best seen by those that want to be right rather be actually informed.