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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/40174373

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a pioneer for LGBTQ+ rights who decades ago upset leaders in his own party when he defied state law and issued marriage licenses to same-sex couples, suggested Democrats were in the wrong in allowing transgender athletes to participate in female college and youth sports.

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is side-stepping my point completely.

No, it's not. The topic is "do trans people have an advantage" and the answer is "no"

"Transitioned" is a stage of transition, if they don't have an advantage at said stage then there's flat out nothing else to be said, and that's the current reality

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Do you have any studies showing exactly when they lose their advantage?

Because, as I linked before, cis men outperform cis women. I'm assuming that you agree with this point.

If a person transitions to a woman then they, at one point, had the inherent advantage and now they do not. When exactly does the advantage disappear? Is it instantaneous? Does it take a week or a year? What blood tests and data points can be used to determine when this process is complete?

These are the questions that matter.

Obviously the people arguing that trans people should never compete are ignorant, I'm not supporting that position. From the point of view of fairness in competition there has to be an objective answer that's backed by objective tests.

Simply declaring that trans people are beyond reproach and that any attempts to quantify biological advantage are unfairly discriminatory and anyone asking these questions is a bigot isn't helpful.