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[–] 123@feddit.org 70 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Probably Fairphone (from the Netherlands) and Shiftphone (from Germany), but that surely depends on how you define production.

[–] Shelena@feddit.nl 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fairphone is great. I really can recommend it. It is a bit expensive at first and the specs are not something special, but mine seems to be almost indestructible. I dropped it like a 100 times and the screen is still fine. If it ever breaks I can replace it myself cheaply. I think in the long term, this makes it a lot better than many other phones. Also, a lot of the materials were sourced responsibly.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do they force updates on users or can these be rejected completely?

[–] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

They remind you, and implore you, telling you that it can be a security risk, but they don't secretly update in the background or stuff like that. Fairphone has also always been very supportive towards installing non-stock android OS on their devices, (including pure Linux distros for phones running well enough).

[–] Shelena@feddit.nl 4 points 19 hours ago

They even have a list on their forum with OSs you can install. https://forum.fairphone.com/t/operating-systems-for-fairphones/11425

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

they don't secretly update in the background or stuff like that.

That's helpful, thank you. This kind of crap from Samsung drove me insane.

[–] Jaizter@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would you reject updates?

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] M137@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

"I want to be left with security holes unpatched"

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Having the entire production line in Europe sounds almost too good to be true, but then again other comments point to HMD.

Personally I think Fairphone is about as good as it gets, due to the commitment to conflict-free minerals and all that. I've been super happy with Fairphone for more than half a decade now. :)

You can also buy them new with /e/OS, which is a de-Googled Android developed open source by a French company called Murena.

[–] skoell13@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Pre-ordered the Shiftphone 8. While it's promising I am unhappy with their constant delays and communication.