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Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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[–] gashead76@lemmy.world 104 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I just can't understand why Vance would interpret Zelenskyy as being disrespectful for politely, calmly, and carefully articulating his point of view on how diplomacy has failed him and his country. Vance seems like the type of person I would basically laugh at and walk away from if I were in a situation to have to hear him be "alpha and in-charge".

It was like watching a scene from an episode of a reality TV show from the early 2000s.

[–] Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 70 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because they went in wanting to find a way to make Zelenskyy seem unreasonable. They have no intention of helping Ukraine at all and now it's going to be because he didn't immediately kiss Trumps feet.

[–] gashead76@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I just wonder what type of people saw that and thought Zelenskyy was the unreasonable one? It's rhetorical, I know what type of people think that... sadly.

[–] TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was like watching a scene from an episode of a reality TV show from the early 2000s.

That's not a coincidence.

[–] gashead76@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, the "president" is the guy from The Apprentice. 🤮

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

He didn't, he was just saying that it was disrespectful cause he wanted to show what a good little bitch he is.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Love how the guy who said "I'll make up whatever stories I need to" told Zelenskyy, after being asked if he's seen what Ukraine is going through: "Oh I haven't personally been there but I've seen stories."

Stories from where, vice couch-humper? RT News?

[–] gashead76@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It actually sounded like he was about to say he had actually been there, then realized he was about to lie about that to a guy who would immediately recognize and likely call him out for lying, so he then course corrected with a seriously lame response.