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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Art has to be made by people. It's literally not art otherwise.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So, if a machine makes the 'art', its not art? So photographs are not art. The hubble telescope,or any space probe for that matter, doesnt produce art.

Art is something that provoke emotions and expression in its observers and not produced naturally. Machines are built by people and require non-random inputs to produce something thefore anything those machines produce is art.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Photography is absolutely art. Humans put a lot of thought and intent into what and how they photograph and how they process and exhibit the photos.

I'd say that some stuff like JWST images definitely count as art, and some such imagery is far more technical and research focused than purely emotional. Maybe some visually boring but scientifically significant images aren't artistic to laypeople. Nuance here is totally fine.

I vehemently disagree that all machine output is art.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And whos to say generative art doesnt receive a lot of thought and intent in producing something worthwhile?

Sure, you could let the machine spit out whatever garbage purely from random inputs, and that is not art as there is zero guidance or intent. But anyone that used generative ai knows you have to guide it to get anything worthwhile out of it. And even then, very likely require manual touchups to correct mistakes.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is a prompt which results in output that satisfies the user in and of itself art, in your view? or only the actual output?

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

The prompt is the human interaction instructing the machine to produce art in the vision of the prompter.