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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I switched to Linux recently, you can too. It's easy and works well now. No more of this bullshit from Microsoft.

[–] throwback3090@lemmy.nz -3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Linux has always worked ok. It's the desktop environments that are unpolished. And the driver model.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago

I have chinese dac -amp, chifi microphone, screen tablet, usb speakers and let me tell you linux works like youd expect windows to and windows works like youd expect linux to. I enjoy no longer having to manually start tablet drivers and having dac drivers crash after switching to linux.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unlike the polished experience in Windows where the UI completely changes every 5 years and there are, literally, 6 different menus for adjusting the volume because removing them literally breaks the kernel.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Never experienced anything like that with KDE Plasma.

[–] throwback3090@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Experienced having more than one way to change the volume? Or you've looked into the source of kde and confirmed there aren't old sliders sneaking around taking up 3 kB of space?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

When is the last time you used KDE? I remember experiencing some wonkiness with widgets/applets "disappearing" (and having to edit a config file to remove it), but that was like a year and a h alf ago.

I have not experienced that in a long time. Though, to be fair, I'm no longer on the distro I was on back then (EndeavourOS), and Bazzite is just more stable/polished when it comes to little things like that. So I'm not 100% sure it was a fix to KDE, or just Bazzite handling it better.

Regardless... I'm not really sure what you mean by the volume slider thing. There is a checkbox to "show virtual devices" on the volume slider pop-up on my system tray that adds a bunch of sliders, but I just keep that off.

Maybe you're using some janky volume widget instead of the one built into the System Tray panel? I would get rid of anything but the official one. If it's not visible by default, you can click the up arrow at the right of the System Tray, then click the gear in the top right, and go under "entries" to change it so volume is always visible

I actually really like how the current volume thing works in KDE... You can either change volume by device (external monitor, TV, BT headphones, etc.), and/or by individual app. Gives you a ton of control.

I can have one instance of VLC playing through bluetooth headphones, with another playing audio from a different video on my TV (hdmi)

[–] throwback3090@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What, precisely, is the user-facing problem with this (the volume one)?

I'm not going to argue that tech companies change UIs and usually for the worse and usually dont fix them. I mean look how shit gnome is after it merged together the worst parts of windows 8 and windows 11. It's awful. Or chrome's insistent efforts to return chrome to chrome even though it's point was being a low chrome browser. Or Firefox deciding that small chrome was too complex to support and dropping that feature. Or every bank turning their website into the shittiest form of single page app. I agree -- all of these behaviors are not great. KDE gets and deserves credit for being the same clunker with tiny incremental improvements it's been for years. I saw in kde6 they rounded some buttons? Good for them!

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

If I'm using VoIP, it reduces the system volume by 50%.

There isn't an option to change this in the Windows 10 UI. You have to dig through the options to find the Windows XP menu to change it. This setting no longer saves between reboots, so every time I boot I have to dig through the same 3 layers of volume settings.

Lots of network settings are unavailable in the modern settings menu. You have to find the "advanced" menu which is just the menu from older versions of Windows.

Each major system update there's a new layer of configuration menus, each with a different set of options some are redundant. They're all integrated with the system in their own unique way and the people that worked on them are not part of the team that's working on the next iteration.

They can't remove the old menus so they just add another one on top. At least in a Linux DE, you know that pipewire is the sound system and there is one way to configure it. You can choose from many different GUI applications if you want a graphical interface, but they're all editing the same configuration.

[–] marnine@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, that polished windows patching screen. Or is it the ads you're referring to?

[–] throwback3090@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know what randomly selected one-off failure you're referring to.

I'm referring to the daily experience of clunk from kde or the smooth glidey uselessness of gnome.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I much prefer even gnome to windows after getting used to it. I even have KDE set up to gnome workflow on my laptop and there isn't nowhere near the clunk of windowses 20 different control panels with random options and 2 different terminals.

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