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[–] slakemoth@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yes i also did gcse history and learnt about Chamberlain

Perhaps we could avoid war instead by making Russia a geopolitical ally rather than continually making them an enemy? Its not like we have any trouble making strategic alliances with other disreputable states.

No this chat by starmer is sabre rattling stupidity , what i dont fully understand is why they do it. The USA will be taking all the spoils from this war.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Perhaps we could avoid war instead by making Russia a geopolitical ally rather than continually making them an enemy? Its not like we have any trouble making strategic alliances with other disreputable states.

Have we just conveniently memory holed world politics post the annexation of Crimea where we tried to ameliorate relations with Russia and what did that get us? A couple hundred thousand dead Ukrainians and Russians?

[–] slakemoth@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Im not sure what you're referring to but i do know that USA has been interfering in the Ukraine which Russia considers its backyard. Imagine if Russia started arming and funding militias in alaska or mexico? (I know you're probably going to bring up Russian bots but that isnt the same, and the USA does that kind of shit all the time).

Would we have had a couple hundred thousand dead if we hadn't armed Ukrainian military? No the war would have ended if Russia just took the corridor it seems to want. If Russia had taken the whole country there would have been many resistance fighters but nowhere near the scale we've seen.

In any case , while we've been talking the russian minister at the talks with trump has said they wont accept peacekeeping forces anyway. So this is all futile speculation. There won't be peacekeeping forces unless you want to prolong the war.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago

Perhaps we could avoid war instead by making Russia a geopolitical ally rather than continually making them an enemy?

You're making this out as if this is Europe's fault and Russia is the innocent party here. Perhaps Russia should stop fucking about in Europe, pull out of Ukraine and start to work on thawing diplomatic relations. The ball is in their court.

No this chat by starmer is sabre rattling stupidity , what i dont fully understand is why they do it.

Probably to act as a deterrent to further Russia escalations and help with the security of Ukraine.

[–] withabeard@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago

We were making Russia a geopolitical ally. Russia decided to invade Ukraine. Appeasement met with backstabbing.