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Emmanuel Macron will host a Paris summit of European defence powers on Monday to try to retake the initiative and demand the US ends its lockout of Europe from talks on Ukraine’s future.

With the US and Russia due to send high-powered delegations for talks in Riyadh this week – the first such meetings in two years – there are fears in Europe that Russia will relaunch its plan for imposed Ukrainian neutrality and a joint US-Russia carve-up with agreed spheres of influence.

Ukraine and many of its closest European allies believe Vladimir Putin wants to make a recasting of the postwar order his precondition for a ceasefire.

France’s foreign minister, Jean-Noël Barrot, told France Inter radio on Sunday: “The president will bring together the main European countries tomorrow for discussions on European security,” although he declined to say which countries would take part and said the meeting should not be “over-dramatised”.

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[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

If I were the EU I would lock trump out of everything. Stop giving him that level of respect. That is what he craves, the spotlight to wag his "power" like a dog dragging his ass on the carpet. Start having meetings with Ukraine without trump, if putin wants to treat let him come to the fucking Hague for a sit down. Pass some sort of special resolution to allow immediate entry for Ukraine into the EU as soon as the war is over. I would increase military production to equal that of the US and feed Ukraine the means to defend itself without the US. I would ban all US based social media and anything resembling the tech bro propaganda machines used to sway and interfere with your free elections.

I know this is not going to happen but that's what I would do if I were the EU.

[–] MainGiraffe@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with you but we cannot increase military production to replace USA. The military industry is not good in Europe and everything France started in this area has been destroyed by germans who prefer give money to USA instead of spending it with european allies. We could ban american social medias since it is the base of the mess we have in our countries but I think it is to late : to many people prefer Putin that living less rich to support freedom.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 9 points 3 weeks ago

The military production could be good for your economy and create jobs, lots of jobs. Might inspire your tech industry's as well.

Giving money to the US is no longer a viable option. Our election's are likely over for good. When putin decides to invade Europe proper it will likely do so with the aid of the US.

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