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[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

We need to move forward and this histrionic blathering is a distraction.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

It's not election season. Move the fuck on. This is ridiculous.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I'm talking about shit that's happening right now, if the party had changed I wouldn't be bringing it up. To move forward, the Democrats need to change leadership to people who will fight for their constituents instead of pointing fingers at them for 'not voting hard through', never mind that for most people outside swing states their presidential votes don't even matter to begin with.

The party and the media spent years telling people that Biden was fine to run even though everyone with eyes could see he was declining, they made sure there was no competitive primary and then parachuted in a candidate that dropped out before Iowa when she last ran for President. And after this whole exercise, they're still surprised the electorate doesn't trust them despite being lied to for years about this and a bunch of other stuff.

I still think Trump actually is a terrible candidate, Democrats just consistently manage to find worse candidates on their side.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Blah blah blah. Lemmy has an endless supplying armchair political experts. The what the dems did done wrong has been covered endlessly. You contribute nothing. You are a distraction. You benefit Trump and musk. And the more you and your ilk do this the more it benefits them.

The brigading that occurs every time I mention this not matter how I phrase it is very telling. The spread of this message of hopelessness is your goal.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Just keep on punching left instead of focusing on the fascists. It worked out for Weimar Germany after all.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Literally saying to stop the internal fighting and you're claiming I'm the one doing. This always feels like talking to right wing projectionist.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 10 minutes ago

I didn't know you ran the DCCC? I'm talking about Democratic leadership, not about what us random posters said.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Democrats just consistently manage to find worse candidates on their side.

Harris would have beat Trump if she promised to fight for universal healthcare or free college. Or if she had simply not sprinted to the right by wanting to build Trump's wall and promising to put Republicans in her cabinet. It was honestly impressive how hard Harris worked to throw the election.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 0 points 14 hours ago

She probably would've done better if she hadn't done that and put some distance between her and Biden, but obviously that's tricky when you were actually part of the admin. When I say she was the worse candidate I don't really mean her personally, it's more about what the electorate was looking for, which means more of an outsider who was willing to say how things could've been handled better by the previous administration instead of saying everything's great.