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More Democrats want a more moderate party, poll says. (www.thecentersquare.com)

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Data from a new Gallup survey suggests that close to half of Democrats want their party to move more toward the middle, while more than 40% of Republicans are happy with their party.

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[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I spend a lot of time talking to people all across the political spectrum (mostly the US, but also globally). The "normal" left from 15-20 years ago are now considered moderate lefts.The moderate left people I know now used to be firmly left but they were abandoned as some went even farther left. The centrist/moderates from before now seem to lean slightly right again as the left has gone farther left. The old moderate right leaning people now seem to just be regular rights and the extreme right is still the good ol extreme right.

Of course this is my very limited sample size of friends and family. Most of which live in very blue cities in very blue California, but I have friends scattered across the US and some globally. I do somewhat often sicuss politics with my friends in India, The Netherlands, Germany, the UK, Australia, Ireland, Sweden, Norway and some other places I'm probably forgetting. While their own political landscapes are vastly different than our own they do seem to generally agree that the American left has gone farther left than the American right has gone farther right.

Nobody liked Kamala. Not even her own party liked her. She was polling at something like 5% in her own party back in 2016. Once you add the lack of a primary election and her politically sterile speeches into the mix it's not hard to see how she lost.

[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

While their own political landscapes are vastly different than our own they do seem to generally agree that the American left has gone farther left than the American right has gone farther right.

So in their, and your estimation, the resurgence of Nazis in the US specifically is less of a shift to the right, but people who want equal rights and to not be targeted by police and corporations is far left? Wanting healthcare and an end to homeless, war, and to stop the persecution of LGBTQ+ for what are obviously biased religious reasons.

I agree, no one liked Harris, she was the first out in the 2020 primaries. Her politically sterile speeches, by another name would be moderate. Not pissing off either side. Do you think she lost both primaries because she was TOO left? Or more likely because she was too in the middle, like this poll is claiming people wanted from her.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Personally it seems more people want someone who "says it how it is". We don't need a polite president that never steps on any toes and only uses the most luke warm approved language of the politically correct.

Why do you think so many people voted for Trump but also AOC down ballot? What do those two people who do not get along have in common? They have no problem speaking their mind and calling shit out.

I think Kamala was the Luke warm soapy water from yesteryears politician. People don't care about the same things they used to. They don't care if their politicians are "proper". They want a "real" person who "calls it like it is". Kamala was not that.

The second she got on stage and started talking about how she was a black woman running for president she already lost. Not because all of America is sexist and/or racist (we certainly have our share of those people not going to deny that), but because the average American doesn't give a flying fuck who is in office as long as their life isn't miserable. Most people heard her talking and just thought "Great. More of the same identity politics that doesn't do anything to improve our daily quality of life".

Sometimes people are so desperate for change they don't care which direction it takes them as long as it gets them outta whatever rut they feel they are stuck in. For many voters they viewed the Democrats as the same slowly sinking ship vs Trump who is potentially going to cause the oceans to dry up, but hey at least the ship isn't sinking anymore.

Edit: removed half a sentence idk where I was going with that I never finished

[–] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

I agree. Decorum has gone out the door. I don't give a fuck what color, or sex you are, just do the job. I agree most people didn't care she was black or a woman, it was her terrible platform and the people behind her pushing for her instead of some kind of abbreviated primary for the Democrats to pick a better candidate.

I am just waiting for an American party. One that is literally for the people, by the people. I think some major union rep could make a good candidate. The UAW boss for example.