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π€VAPELIFEπ€
If you think it's better, it's not.
Edit
To clarify...
If you're a smoker and you downgraded to vaping, it's a step in the right direction, but still you're better off quitting. We know the addiction is hard to quit, but vaping is a better alternative than actual smoke inhalation.
But if you've never smoked and started vaping (most likely due to advertisements and/or peer influence), the long-term effects of vaping are still inconclusive. That said, you are still inhaling toxic chemicals, especially through the delivery method (propylene glycol, vegetable glycerins), not to mention other flavorings, and depending on the device, possibly metals from the heating elements. While it isn't as bad as cigarettes, the best course of action would be to remove yourself from such an addiction before it becomes a problem.
Or, you could just go on believing you're safe, continuing to inhale. I'm not going to judge you, but Nature will. Biology is funny like that.
Thanks for the after school special
Not to be dismissive of anything you said, but I know a few people who vape that shit that is literally just flavor. No nicotine, no drugs. I'm not sure if you're even supposed to inhale it but they do.
There's also this other product I've seen people hawking on YouTube that's basically a fancy wooden tube you put cotton wads soaked with flavor juice in and puff on that to get some taste in your mouth.
So there is at least 1 safe way to "vape." It's just not technically vaping anything π€·π»ββοΈ
I also vape 0 nicotine, but I'm trying to wind down flavor too. Back in the early days of vaping, it was more often than not the flavoring that was causing a lot of health problems. I remember specifically that some cinnamon, grape, and butter flavors would cause popcorn lung. They've since been removed, but pretty scary nonetheless. I still avoid those flavors as a rule of thumb.
If I do have to order flavoring, I go through a site that provides all the MSDS chemical documentation for each flavor. Even then, these "safe" flavors still have skin irritation warnings. Not to mention if you sweeten your juices or buy sweet juices, its more than likely using sucralose, which in high intakes can also promote cancer. I've dived pretty deep into this because I've been making my own ejuice for nearly 8 years. Hell, I still have 5 gallons of 100mg nicotine I'm not using in my freezer (bought just before it was illegal to sell nicotine online).
The tube is interesting though, because this same site sells purely natural flavorings. Could be a nice alternative for vaping addicts. I still avoid disposables like the plague. I've tried one and the amount of flavoring and sucralose you need to achieve that flavor is more unhealthy than the extremely high nicotine. If they make someone who's been vaping for 11 years sick to the stomach, you can bet they are the worst you can get for vapes.
Source: trust me bro
But is it worse?
Better than what?
Smoking cigarettes. Sorry, I thought that was obvious.
I asked to clarify, because that's verifiably incorrect.
To a long-term smoker maybe, but to new smokers (judging by the "vapelife" quote), it is absolutely correct. Read my edit above.
Let's just ignore the actual studies saying otherwise. Sorry not American ones, conflict of interest, tobacco is one of its last money makers that isn't slaughtering people and taking their shit.
My favorite part of this is that no one really asked you to come out and start judging other people's vices.
Not judging. You do you, but how you perceive reality doesn't really factor into actual facts.
I get it, but the community is called Funny, not VapingIsGreatForYou. It sorta changes the context of the original comment drastically. Not to mention Vapenation was an old meme that essentially made fun of vapers. I understand you're trying to help people, but this might be the wrong place for that.
I have a sardonic view of life, so it is what it is. You could just downvote me, maybe even block me, and move on with your life. Just sayin'.
Have an upvote instead.
Fine, I'll downvote myself. :P
Why is it not better than smoking?
Read my edit.
Your edit only said that it IS better than smoking, so how does your original comment supposed to make sense?