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#Firefox we need to talk, (piraten-partei.social)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by nick@piraten-partei.social to c/firefox@lemmy.world

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#Firefox we need to talk,
or #DevsOfMastodon what are your issues with Firefox?
I really like Firefox(#GUX, #GUI, workflows etc), and I've always agreed that we need an independent #browser alternative to #Chromium, but I didnt think it was this bad: https://youtu.be/mmjUlFIaNLE?t=136
Sure take that video with a grain of salt, but I think he has a point.
@firefox@lemmy.world @firefox@lemmy.ml I really hope @firefoxnightly can finally start catching up!

#Development #FediDevs #OpenSource #Gecko #LibreWolf #Vivaldi

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[–] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I blame Google. Google "contributed" to the HTML 5 standard, and what we ended up with is a standard so complex and convoluted that it's nearly impossible to make a fully capable browser without using Chromium code.

They didn't violate open source rules, but they weaponized it to kill off independent browsers. Just my 2¢.

[–] nick@piraten-partei.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@OpticalMoose that's what I thought, but the CSS and visual/style stuff aside,
* web standard request in #Firefox being undefined("body does not exist")
* Network streamed response only showing up after the response ends
* various video playback restrictions(possibly leaking memory)
but also stuff that wasn't mentioned in the Video like, hardware accaleration issues, old code base or features like HDR not being implemented.
And I'm not even starting with Google being the default search engine..

[–] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago

I forgot about HW acceleration. Yeah, that is totally on Mozilla.

But I'll admit I'm not a web dev. I just took the basic courses in school; HTML/JS/PHP, etc. I learned enough to know I wasn't gonna be good at it. :)