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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

The blog post says they're just deprecating X11 APIs at this point; GTK5 will remove them.

I'm still very worried about this. Wayland still has many rough edges and I think forcing a move to X11 is premature. One of the main benefits of the Linux ecosystem has always been that it strived to run on hardware far longer than commercial vendors, who have gotten even worse at forcing obsolescence of hardware for purely revenue-focused reasons (looking at you, Microsoft -- Win11 refusing to work on chipsets it is perfectly capable of running on...)

[–] pogodem0n@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Wayland doesn't require specialized hardware though. How is it obsolescence?

Deprecation of X11, currently, only affects cutting/bleeding-edge distributions and will, hopefully, push app developers to target Wayland properly.

Those who strictly require features of X11 can continue using desktop environments running on it. It is not like deprecation of X11 in GTK5 will suddenly make all apps using other toolkits require Wayland.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I admit I may misunderstand the situation; I hear there's a compatibility layer or something named xwayland -- will that allow older apps linked against x11 to run on a wayland desktop?

I'll have to give wayland a try again soon -- if it's stable on my laptops and I can figure out the custom keyboard layout stuff (I posted on another thread recently asking about that -- sounds like there are good solutions for that) then I'll feel comfortable moving to it finally.

[–] pogodem0n@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

You definitely should. I am running Fedora 41 with KDE Plasma and I don't miss anything running the Wayland session. I am using it for all my gaming, university home assignments in a Windows VM, playing with local LLMs, content creation and programming. In fact, Fedora had Wayland enabled by default for nearly a decade.

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