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Office space meme:

"If y'all could stop calling an LLM "open source" just because they published the weights... that would be great."

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

China is a state-capitalist, bourgeois society. They're not a communist society.

Also: LLMs aren't energy efficient.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don’t think you know why any of those words mean. Just regurgitating propaganda.

Communism is defined by worker control of the means of production, and allocating the profits to help the people who need it. That’s how they lifted 800 million people out of poverty, instead of just making a handful of people obscenely wealthy. Simply participating in markets does not make a country capitalist.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 day ago

Just regurgitating propaganda.

No u.

Communism is defined by worker control of the means of production

No, that's socialism. Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society.

Also, the workers in China aren't in control of the means of production. The bureaucrats and capitalists are.

That’s how they lifted 800 million people out of poverty

While I applaud the better living standards: I see no contradiction to capitalism. Marx himself wrote:

The bourgeoisie, during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together. Subjection of Nature’s forces to man, machinery, application of chemistry to industry and agriculture, steam-navigation, railways, electric telegraphs, clearing of whole continents for cultivation, canalisation of rivers, whole populations conjured out of the ground — what earlier century had even a presentiment that such productive forces slumbered in the lap of social labour?

Simply participating in markets does not make a country capitalist

No, but state ownership of the means of production makes a country state capitalist.

Let's come back to your initial point: you accused me of dismissing an LLM, because it is "communist". Comrade, I'm an anarcho-communist. I dislike all the hypetrain riding, water gobbling sharlatans in the current so-called "AI" bubble: Altman, Pashaj (don't know how to write him), Zuckerberg and Musk. I like it if the market get disrupted, but I don't like it if the AI trend continues to wreak havoc on nature.

Btw: how is deepseek "energy efficient"?

And also: All that has squat to do with open source or not.