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Led by RFK Jr., Conservatives Embrace Raw Milk. Regulators Say It’s Dangerous. (kffhealthnews.org)
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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t even risk it with pasteurized milk. Diseases are caused by unsanitary environments where the animals are huddled up together in a dirty warehouse.

Plant-based milk all the way.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You do understand the process of pasteurization, yes?

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That doesn’t clean out the pus and the blood.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And you do understand the long and careful process of declaring a milk lot as safe for processing, yes?

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Not mention the filthy pipes they feed the cows with and how dairy farming is largely responsible for next potential pandemic the bird flu spreading disease to our animal companions and farmers. It’s certainly not as magical of a technique you believe it be. You were clearly not aware of these issues.

Milk consumption is a hallmark of western diet. According to common believes, milk consumption has beneficial effects for human health. Pasteurization of cow’s milk protects thermolabile vitamins and other organic compounds including bioactive and bioavailable exosomes and extracellular vesicles in the range of 40–120 nm, which are pivotal mediators of cell communication via systemic transfer of specific micro-ribonucleic acids, mRNAs and regulatory proteins such as transforming growth factor-β. There is compelling evidence that human and bovine milk exosomes play a crucial role for adequate metabolic and immunological programming of the newborn infant at the beginning of extrauterine life. Milk exosomes assist in executing an anabolic, growth-promoting and immunological program confined to the postnatal period in all mammals. However, epidemiological and translational evidence presented in this review indicates that continuous exposure of humans to exosomes of pasteurized milk may confer a substantial risk for the development of chronic diseases of civilization including obesity, type 2 diabetes mellitus, osteoporosis, common cancers (prostate, breast, liver, B-cells) as well as Parkinson’s disease. Exosomes of pasteurized milk may represent new pathogens that should not reach the human food chain.

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Cow's milk is currently the most consumed product worldwide. However, due to various direct and indirect contamination sources, different chemical and microbiological contaminants have been found in cow's milk. This review details the main contaminants found in cow's milk, referring to the sources of contamination and their impact on human health. A comparative approach highlights the poor efficacy and effects of the pasteurization process with other methods used in the treatment of cow's milk. Despite pasteurization and related techniques being the most widely applied to date, they have not demonstrated efficacy in eliminating contaminants. New technologies have appeared as alternative treatments to pasteurization. However, in addition to causing physicochemical changes in the raw material, their efficacy is not total in eliminating chemical contaminants, suggesting the need for new research to find a solution that contributes to improving food safety.

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[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I question your ability to actually understand the sources that you have quoted here. They don't support your arguments. Just because scientists frequently investigate potential negative externalities of milk consumption doesn't imply that it's unhealthy to consume.

That first article is actually extremely interesting, but the authors overstate the significance of their findings by quite a distance.

See this quote

Pasteurization of milk is an inappropriate method to prevent the spread of milk exosomes to the human milk consumer. In this regard, UHT is much more effective.

UHT milk is already widely available and is simply a form of pasteurization that utilizes a higher temperature to kill bacterial endospores and apparently, milk exosomes. So the existence of that form of pasteurization, which the authors apparently prefer to distinguish from more conventional pasteurization for no apparent reason, largely invalidates the litany of potential concerns that they laid out.

Furthermore, their health concerns are largely speculative and based on limited evidence. The main focus of the research seems to be caused by the fact that milk exosomes are currently being considered for use as vessels for the delivery of medicinal drugs.

Due to their low antigenicity, excellent bioavailability in many tissues and easy crossing of tissue boundaries such as the intestinal and blood–brain barrier, pharmacology became highly interested in bovine milk exosomes as therapeutic delivery systems of small interfering RNAs, drugs and phytochemicals.

The authors seem to be arguing against the use of this technique, and possibly for good reason. But that is an entirely separate argument from the one that you are trying to construct.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

Bad practices exist. But good practices do too.

I've visited dairy farms and the animals were well taken care of, fed, and with clean and proper housing conditions.

The regulations are also very hard for keeping dairy cows, too the point many producers have shut down (hopefully, the bad ones). Instalations have to follow strict cleaning and sanitation requirements, pest control protocols, etc. And animals have to be regularly checked by veterinarians, along with surprise visits/inspections from the local municipal veterinarian and national food and animal safety agencies.

And the milk is checked for safety.

Is the current technology in need of an advance? Perhaps. But come on...