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https://gizmodo.com/google-s-pixel-8-sim-slot-esim-only-iphone-1850759671

What happened to daring to be different? What happened to having options? What happened to creativity?

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[-] phi1997@kbin.social 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why do Android manufacturers keep turning their phones into iPhones? If I wanted an iPhone, I'd buy one.

[-] lorez@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Prolly cos they sell like hotcakes.

[-] phi1997@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

True, but they shouldn't be the only option. A big part of why they sell the way they do is brand recognition.

[-] lorez@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

At this point I dunno anymore why they sell the way they do. Sure, hardware is really great. But the OS is lagging behind Android, CoreAudio aside. Apps are fine if you work around iOS's limitations. Still people really like the ecosystem or are they poor brand followers? Dunno.

[-] phi1997@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Vendor lock-in is a big one. Losing access to your purchased games/apps and having a harder time bringing over your music and video libraries could turn people off, even if F2P games and streaming have made these less relevant. There's also the matter of switching cloud storage providers

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Product design and BOM. Less parts. Easier to integrate. Easier IP ratings.

[-] dog_@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Are you forgetting that the Galaxy S5 had a removable back and still had an IP rating?

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Are you saying it's not easier to just not have a hole than it is to seal a hole?

I'm not thrilled about it either, but it's obvious why they prefer it.

[-] dog_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They need microphones and speakers. There's gonna be holes regardless.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah. But you remove the sim card assembly (BOM), connector/solder pads (system design and internal space) and remove potential ingress points. It's just easier and cheaper from engineering through to production.

[-] MaximumPower@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Dude, they have under water cameras , you can swim with fucking whales with a huge ass cameras, I'm not going swimming with my phone. Fick all these ratings, it's not like they would make it cheaper for you. Give me back changeable batteries, I'm not fucking fish.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

They're chasing IP ratings. I like not losing a phone when I make a dumb, but prefer lightly sealed or unsealed with a replaceable battery. My LG V20 was the bees knees.

[-] gayhitler420@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

You can still change the batteries, it just takes a heat gun now.

[-] MaximumPower@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, and you can travel to space with a rocket. Common what kind of argument is that. You forgot the steps in between.

Thanks for sending me to space in this rocket, but how do I get home.

[-] gayhitler420@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

The step in between is to spend $20 on a heat gun.

[-] dog_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Idk, apple replaced their sim card slot with..... Plastic. A plastic insert. "Internal Space"

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

They're making SIM and non-SIM versions so that let's them use the same tooling for both versions. It's still a BOM reduction, but yeah, the other points would be a much smaller impact.

[-] dog_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think it would make that big of a difference.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not entirely sure how much of a difference it would make in reality, but they're probably doing it for a reason. Though, with google devices, they may just be trying to nudge other manufacturers in a direction for their own reasons. Google phones help them set and maintain certain standards without trying to force other manufacturers to do what they want.

Is there a motive you see for Google to do this that isn't per-unit cost savings?

[-] dog_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

As users in this discussion have said, Google just wants more control.

[-] Katzelle3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Keyword is easier

[-] MrTHXcertified@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Yep. More of the restrictions of Apple but with less of the QA.

[-] gayhitler420@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Because people go out of their way to buy iPhones. The overwhelming majority of android users are just on the cheapest thing.

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