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Cold-weather range hits aren’t as bad for EVs with heat pumps (arstechnica.com)

submitted 1 month ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The average commute is 52 miles. Most EVs sold in the US have a range of 250 miles or more.

No one cares about "average commute" when buying an electric car and considering the offered range. They're thinking about long trips.

So a resistive heater eating 10% of your range is way less of an issue than your battery not charging properly in cold weather.

Who said anything about batteries "not charging properly"? What does that even mean?

heat pumps should be available, but they aren't going to save you if cold weather kills your battery.

We're not talking about killing batteries, we're talking about electric range. Heat pumps extend your electric range and 20 miles can absolutely be the difference between making it to the next charger or not.

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Most people aren't road tripping in their electric vehicle every day. If you don't understand how temperature affects battery chemistry, capacity, and charging I don't understand how you can even be in this conversation.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Most people aren't road tripping in their electric vehicle every day.

They can't road trip ever if the vehicle doesn't have sufficient range. I don't understand how you can even be in this conversation when you don't understand basic principles like this.

If you don't understand how temperature affects battery chemistry, capacity, and charging

I understand how it affects all of these. It doesn't cause any of it to "not charge properly". EVs are used in the coldest places in the world with no major problems.

[–] ifItWasUpToMe@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Not sure how you are being downvoted. You’re absolutely right. Everyone I know that wants an EV wants more range.

[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My wife has a Nissan leaf with 60 mile range for commuting, I have an old gas hatchback we can take for road trips. Before going off about how rich and privileged this setup is, the Leaf was purchased for 6k, 4k after tax rebates. Hatchback was purchased for 6k 9 years ago.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

I'm glad that works out for you.

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

If only plug-in hybrids existed...