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The order also explicitly limits Trump’s ability to attack witnesses or his co-defendants, including on social media.

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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 24 points 3 years ago (4 children)

So, what happens if he violates the gag order? Can they lock him up or is just a pithy fine?

[–] 520@kbin.social 14 points 3 years ago (2 children)

If he violates the bond terms, they can throw him right into jail.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 11 points 3 years ago

Great. Fingers crossed that he's stupid/impulsive enough to do it and the judge actually has the chutzpa to put him in the clink.

[–] mkhopper@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago

"can", but "won't".
The shitstorm of logistics to make that happen is so far beyond what anyone would actually be willing to do.
Laws just don't apply to the wealthy, as much as they ought to.
Laws really don't apply to wealthy ex-US presidents, as much as we want them to.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 years ago (1 children)

He hasn't got in any trouble yet for violating gag orders. I'm not hopeful about justice being served this time around.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I feel like the fact that it's an actual bond condition this time might motivate the judge to actually enforce it, but I understand your pessimism.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 years ago (1 children)

How great would that be to watch? I don't drink, but I think I would make an exception that night.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago

If Trump ever does have to do the walk of shame, I'm saving that clip on my phone as an antidepressant.

[–] knotthatone@lemmy.one 12 points 3 years ago (1 children)

The judge has every right to revoke bail and lock him up if he breaks those terms. I'm not betting any money on that actually happening, but if the law were applied equally he'd be denied bail and in prison until trial already.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago

I've been watching some news reporting on it and apparently the main concern is "where the line is" when it comes to his commentary. As a presidential candidate, he's still allowed to attack his political opponents, but what happens if he attacks Mike Pence, who is both a contending GOP candidate and a witness in his case? Most commentators I've seen are saying the comment would have to be an egregious violation of the order for him to be sent to jail without enormous political upheaval (I mean, a certain portion of his base will go apeshit no matter what, but you get the idea). I suspect Trump will do what he always does and try to test that line. I really hope he miscalculates.