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we absolutely respect veganism and what it stands for but

VCJ RULES ! And also the rules:

  1. no unjerking

  2. no carnists/speciesists/non-vegans

  3. no seriousness/debating (no unjerking)

  4. moderator discretion is part of it; if you fail to reply in a short time to a moderator, you will be treated as a carnist troll.

  5. avoid gruesome content (normal for the animal pharming industry) or add content warnings

  6. no AI slop

  7. screenshots from nazi platforms need to be extra defaced

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh goody, the meatsplainers have arrived to explain veganism to me. Please tell me more.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

They’re here to rewrite history.

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean, ok? Did someone hurt you recently?

I think the big bird is right, mostly, but it can be both. You can treat it as a diet and a philosophy. Many words have more than one meaning and context matters, but in most day to day normal conversations the average person is probably going to interpret it as a dietary thing. You can always explain further that to you, personally, it is also a philosophy, but that doesn't really exclude the dietary aspect. Of course, if you act like this :::gestures upward::: they won't care because they'll just think you're an asshole.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, yes they did. The issue is that non-vegans would rather tell us what they think veganism is, than learn what it actually is.

[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Fair enough, I get it. Been there with far too many topics.

It just made me think of an old South Park episode where the boys try to redefine the word "fag" to refer to obnoxious motorcyclists instead of gays. So they start using it that way, but the adults around them think they are homophobic, and its confusing all around. The boys know that to them its an insult to obnoxious people, but its misinterpreted because everyone else thinks it means something else. When they finally get to explain themselves fully the gays in town rally with the boys to officially change the meaning of "fag" and I laughed my ass off.

You shouldn't get shouted down over semantics, but it still needs to be acknowledged to have a dialogue and educate people. Unfortunately I agree, many people just aren't open to learning, so uh yeah. That sucks.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Plant-based is the diet and vegan is the philosophy that excludes animal products for ethical reasons.

Here you’re coming with the rude language. You have no right to talk to them like that.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here you’re coming with the rude language. You have no right to talk to them like that.

What? What are you referring to?

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago

What's rude about saying a third party might respond to behavior a certain way? They didn't say that they were an asshole, they said an audience would interpret their own "Okay meatsplainer" attitude as rude.