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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by tarneo@lemmy.ml to c/selfhost@lemmy.ml

Tl;dr: Automatic updates on my home server caused 8 hours of downtime of all of renn.es' docker services including email and public websites

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[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] yote_zip@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Right, it was clearly LTT's fault for not reading, but automatic upgrades are the same thing as not reading. I've been using Linux for a very long time now, and I've seen Apt try to do some very stupid things before. Maybe it's better nowadays but I don't know if I'll ever shake the gut instinct to not allow Apt to do whatever it thinks is right.

[-] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] yote_zip@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I really don't trust GUI package managers yet. I feel like they shouldn't be that hard to get working properly, but I always seem to get quirky behavior when I try to use them. As for readability apt is one of the worse tools IMO. I've been using nala lately and really like how it lays out its operations. Contrast that format to what Linus saw in his video.

Maybe we could have a blacklist of packages/metapackages marked "important" that cause warnings, like xorg, pipewire, pulseaudio, kde-desktop, gnome-desktop, etc. If you're uninstalling something like that you better hit confirm twice because that's not typical behavior.

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