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Safe spaces are important (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/2421185

Safe spaces are places that help build community and support between people that are marginalized in wider society (like LGBTQ+, African/Native/Asian Americans, autistic people, etc.)

In our day and age this is necessary because the wider world can be hostile to ideas and behaviours that push against the social norm. These ideas and behaviours that are expressed in these communities are, almost by definition, actively pushing against the social norm and trying to advocate for new and better social norms.

The way that these ideas are attacked can either be direct or indirect in their nature but all of the attacks essentially boils down to unhelpful criticism of the core idea.

For example, if someone made a comment about LGBTQ+ rights and how they need to be advocated more in general society but then someone else comes along and questions whether or not there is any fundamental inequality between LGBTQ+ people and wider society they are implicitly stifling conversation through questioning the core premise of inequality which stops further conversation.

Criticism can be great and help expose weaknesses in initial ideas but at the same time, it also can end up stifling creativity and discussion when people don't feel emotionally safe sharing their views with others in the community.

This is exactly why ideas can be fragile. Even great ideas and behaviours can end up being forgotten or abandoned because people excessively criticize them without actually developing them further.

This is why safe spaces are important to help nurture and build ideas/behaviours that otherwise would have a hard time gaining traction and help develop them so they become more resilient.

So how do we balance the need for critique and support in communities?

I think a good way of doing this would be to encourage constructive dissent - disagreeing in ways that help build on top of an idea instead of directly stifling it.

This is done by accepting the core premise from the person you are talking to and finding ways to make the idea/behaviour they presented better.

This is exactly why in improv it is important to have the attitude of "Yes, and" because otherwise the scene won't go anywhere and will either be stuck or completely dissolve.

Takeaway:

We need more communities where ideas can be built on top of each other instead of just being beaten down.

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[-] Rentlar@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Think of it like an online version of a community club. You get people with similar experiences or interest, who you have more in common than most to be able to talk about things you normally can't.

Someone barging in such a space just to be contrarian with everyone or tell them why they are wrong and should feel bad about themselves is not appropriate behaviour. I still hold that true even in a space for the most misguided group of conservatives.

You have to come at it in a way at least empathize with their situation and listen as much as you speak. You don't have to be convinced of anything, but show that you are willing to hear and there's a chance they can at least hear you out too.

[-] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly the point that I wanted to get across.

[-] BarryZuckerkorn@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

It doesn't even need to be for marginalized communities, either (even if the benefit is most pronounced for those who don't feel comfortable being themselves in the broader public sphere). Large organizations have always seen the benefit of smaller subgroups for like-minded people of similar experience/background to have a narrower discussion, even if some of those subgroups have quite a bit of social power out in the broader world.

For example, I am active in a few online communities (and in-person social circles) consisting of lawyers. As a profession and as a group, we have plenty of power and influence, so the benefit of having a gated space, even if we feel "safe" elsewhere, is still to foster discussion and community.

Churches and religious student groups will run Bible studies and the like, and they don't tolerate people coming in and trying to derail the conversation by questioning the premises of their religions, either. Even if (or perhaps especially if) it is the dominant religion in their area.

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