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Sweden tells Germany: Reform your electricity market for power cable approval (euroweeklynews.com)

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[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Germany is already changing circumstances - towards truly renewable energy. Nuclear energy only has support from politicians that change their views like flags in the wind. Nuclear energy in Germany is dead. Current attempts to revive it are done to detract from getting the transition to renewable energy done. You can claim otherwise, but as a German speaker I can tell you that only politican frauds and charlatans are asking for nuclear energy.

[-] Tobberone@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Aye, I agree. And given the fit-for-55 directive, that push will continue, further reducing the economic viability of nuclear. Nuclear is dead.

However, regardless of the state of nuclear in Europe, the big problem is that Germany does not produce enough energy, which spikes the energy prices in neighbouring countries. Here, electricity suddenly becomes 8 times more costly when Germany imports electricity. That is something Germany needs to address or face constant demands of building nuclear.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

However, regardless of the state of nuclear in Europe, the big problem is that Germany does not produce enough energy, which spikes the energy prices in neighbouring countries.

That is only half true. Northern Germany has an energy production surplus and frequently exports energy to Belgium and the Netherlands. However Denmark has even cheaper energy production, which is why northern Germany is importing energy from there despite having an energy production surplus. The real issue lies with southern Germany, mainly Bavaria. The conservative Bavarian government has effectively strangled renewable energy production capacity with obstructive legislation over the past decade, which, coupled with their block on strengthening the energy grid, has led to southern Germany being a net importer of energy.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago

Germany burns coal and imports electricity rather than use nuclear.

Renewables are great but they aren't enough. Germany has proved this. Nuclear fills the gaps that renewables can't. Both should be options.

But Germany decided "nuclear is bad" so while that won't change it doesn't change the fact that it was a bad idea.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Misguided takes like this is exactly why I hate the CDU, the conservative party. Germany's energy policy did NOT prove that renewables aren't enough to fulfill the energy needs of a country. The ONLY thing the conservative German government did prove is that replacing nuclear energy and coal with cheap imported russian gas will bite you. The expansion of renewables was smothered by the conservative government at the time. That is the only take-away: Conservatives will fuck your country, if it means they don't have to make harder choices. They will always choose the path of least resistance, no matter how moronic that path may be. Vote left or see your country be driven into ruin. That is the only valid take-away that came from Germany's nuclear energy exit.

[-] sith@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We both know that Germany isn't even close going fossil free with or without nuclear.

And as long as the current EU situation benefits Germany, things probably will stay the same. But fit for 55 plus a reformed energy market could lead to quite high German inflation which will boost the populist parties even more. And when they have the majority, if it doesn't mean more Russian gas, then it probably mean nuclear. And if they don't get a majority, there is at least no longer a strong Russian actor which can plant anti-nuclear disinformation among the population. At least not as easy as they could before.

Anyway, public opinion can change rather quickly. The anti-nuclear movement is mainly a boomer movement and they are getting old. Prepare for change.

[-] xxd@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

If the anti-nuclear movement will die out with boomers getting old, surely you can explain why in this statistic, younger people are actually preferring the nuclear phase-out whereas the older generations were largely opposing it?

All my gen z homies use renewables

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