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submitted 22 hours ago by Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.world

Part of what's making learning Linux so difficult for me, is the idea of how fragmented it is. You can install programs with sudo apt get (program). You can get programs with snaps. You can get programs with flatpaks. You can install with tar.gz files. You can install with .deb files. You can get programs with .sh files. There's probably more I don't know about.

I don't even know where all these programs are being installed. I haven't learned how to uninstall them yet. And I'm sure that each way has a different way to uninstall too.

So that brings me to my main question. Why not consolidate all this? Sure, files CAN be installed anywhere if you want, but why not make a folder like /home/programs/ where it's assumed that programs would be installed?

On windows the programs can be installed anywhere, but the default is C:/windows/Program Files x86/ or something like that. Now, you can change it all you want when you install the programs. I could install it to C:/Fuckfuckfuck/ if I wanted to. I don't want to, so I leave it alone because C:/Windows/Program Files x86/ is where it's assumed all the files are.

Furthermore, I see no benefit to installing 15 different programs in 7 different folders. I begrudgingly understand why there's so many different installation methods, but I do NOT understand why as a collective community we can't have something like a standardized setting in each distro that you can set 1 place for all your installation files.

Because of the fragmentation of distros, I can understand why we can't have a standardized location across all distros like Windows has. However I DON'T see why we can't have a setting that gets set upon each first boot after installation that tells each future installation which folder to install to.

I would personally pick /Home/Programs/, but maybe you want /root/Jamies Files/ because you're Jamie, and those are your files.

In either case, as we boot up during the install, it would ask us where we want our program files installed. And from then on, no matter what method of install you chose, it would default to whatever your chosen folder was.

Now, you could still install other places too, but you would need to direct that on a per install basis.

So what's the benefit of having programs each installed in seperate locations that are wildly different?

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[-] manicdave@feddit.uk 7 points 8 hours ago

Linux is actually kinda designed to be less fragmented than windows really.

The reason you don't pick an install directory is because the standard is that binaries live where binaries live, dependencies live where dependencies live, logs live where logs live, etc.

All the user should worry about is where the media or whatever your program works with is.

Always try to find the apt install instructions for whatever program you want, and it's easy to uninstall with apt remove.

Apart from a few deb packages, almost everything that can't be managed via apt should be considered incomplete or experimental. If it was ready for you to just use it without issue, it would be in an apt repository.

It may seem a bit daunting to have to use command line at first, but once you're used to it, you'll realise how absolutely broken and archaic managing software on windows is. (Like seriously, it's 2024 and you're still having to fish through slow or sketchy websites to find installers for tools and drivers.)

this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2024
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