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[-] a9249@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I know everyone here foams over Linux, and for good reason... but please remember the average user is a techno-fobe who struggles to find the start menu. Linux just isn't an option for a lot of people. Windows has been around so long and feels familiar. Until there is a major demographic shift and ECE training on general computer use an basic troubleshooting... the majority of the population will stick with whatever arrives when they turn it on because "It's what they know".

If Linux is to take over it must come PRE-installed, Must be fully compatible (read: plug-n-play); even with the weird printer your aunt found in a garage sale, at-least feel familiar to the majority of users.... and for corpos... run MS office (read: excel) natively.

[-] kshade@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

even with the weird printer your aunt found in a garage sale

Windows isn't supporting that anymore either.

at-least feel familiar to the majority of users

Start menu is at the bottom left of the task bar, you can start Chrome from there.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago

Some random old printer is much more likely to be plug and play on Linux these days than it is on windows.

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Seriously, I’ve had way more printer issues on Windows than linux.

[-] TK420@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Weird printer on windows 11, that’s not a thing. A weird printer in your CUPS server in Linux, totally a thing

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

I have never connected a printer to my network or via USB, clicked the add printer button, and was able to print on my first try.

Then I tried to add a printer on Fedora Linux.

Cant say never anymore.

[-] TK420@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Also Brother printers have their shit together for Linux drivers.

To Brother's credit, this is also true for their windows drivers. As an IT admin, anytime I need a new printer they're my preferred brand.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If Linux is to take over it must come PRE-installed, Must be fully compatible (read: plug-n-play); even with the weird printer your aunt found in a garage sale, at-least feel familiar to the majority of users… and for corpos… run MS office (read: excel) natively.

Or we could just not care if it "takes over"?

Even if Linux was and did all of those things -- and many of them are already crossed off of the list -- it may not "take over" and despite some corporate spend from some of the backing corporations, it's not really a profit driven ecosystem. Linux doesn't have to take over and do exactly what Microsoft does, Linux is just fine as is.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It actually is a profit-driven ecosystem, otherwise Mr Poettering's creations would still be something as weird and unpopular as Leechcraft, if somebody remembers that software, and so would Gnome after 2.* and KDE after 3.*, and we would probably have something more interesting instead of Wayland as the coming X11 replacement, but you are right, waiting for the rest of the world to move to Linux before you do is an illogical position to say the least.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's not solely a profit-driven ecosystem is probably a better phrasing.

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

The more of us that buy computers with it preinstalled the more it signals that there is interest.

Popular brands offer it. I'm not saying you have to go buy, but you can also let people know it's an option.

I bought an XPS Developer edition and when asked I explained that when Linux had support from the manufacturer it can be as reliable as their Macs, often even more reliable.

[-] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I’d argue it will be Android/iOS/ChromeOS over Windows, for better or for worse. This fucks over companies and governments than it does the average user, in aggregate.

I spend a few months here and there just using my iPad for everything I can (I got through my college degree with one a long time ago and it’s nostalgic for me), and it’s crazy to me how feature complete it is for most work flows. Exactly programming is an issue, for me, but I can create an STL to printing it all on device! Much less office and what not.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, you're right. Also, how bad Windows 11 is is massively exaggerated, once my machine was set up, all I've done is remove a few programs like One Drive from loading on start, and it's been fine.

I do need to figure out how to get rid of the news and weather thingy on the start menu, to be fair.

[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

It'd take a fresh install, but W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC is how all current Windows should be. Only has Edge + Defender.

You can find it on massgrave.dev

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