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I think the important thing to point out is that with Agriculture/Peasants and Industry/Proles, these represent a dialectic contradiction: within a mode of production there is an oppressing class and an oppressed class.
A "Finance Socialist" state would not be run by the oppressors within the Financial system - it would be run by the oppressed. Just as the PRC is not ruled by landlords and the USSR was not ruled by Capitalists.
Who exactly the oppressed class under the Public Finance mode of production (if it can even be considered a distinct mode of production) would be is the important question. I think as we transition deeper into a "Gig Economy" world, the answer is the Lumpenproletariat.
Huh, I never really thought of that
Lumpenprole?
I think I'm kinda biased in that lumpenprole aren't exactly proles but a marginalized and totally disenfranchised chaotic wildcard class without much relation to the productive forces, that may ally randomly with proletarian and bourgeois forces, so I have my doubts...
I don't trust a mixed bag for something relating to the commanding heights of the economy
Personally, I'd rather go the Lenin route and fully restructure the financial sector to be more suited for conventional working class ranks; from peasants and proletariat...
Well, that presupposes there may be peasants in this world, such as Southeast Asia or South America
I guess I did an error by not investigating more into lumpenprole (something something Mao quote). If you can explain your side, maybe I'll understand, but if you're just here to win an argument, then I forsake it, due to my ignorance...