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But the word for a Temporary Ban, is Suspend, not Ban.
Every time I hear about a ban, I have to take a moment to remind myself and ask: "Do they mean ban or suspend?"
It's annoying. I'm hoping there's a good reason for it.
They're not synonymous.
You don't suspend a customer from a bar, temporarily or permanently. Suspension implies membership, or access being limited. Your membership to a club can be suspended. Your access to Walmart can't be. You're banned from the store, whether for a year or a lifetime. As there's no barrier to entry, it doesn't make sense to suspend the privilege of access.
This is all ignoring that banning a person from a limited access club is also perfectly fine, because the definition of ban is applicable either way. There aren't really many situations where suspension would be valid but ban wouldn't. Maybe some small subset of privileges could be suspended where "ban" is a little weird, because general access is still permitted.
But temporary ban makes perfect sense. (Ignoring that it's been standard terminology for 30 years.)
That's what I explained. "a Temporary Ban, is Suspend, not Ban."
That's the only thing it makes sense to suspend. What else would you suspend? (excluding the meaning of hanging something up)
A temporary ban is a ban. Nowhere in your definition is length of time, because a ban can be for any length of time.
You could suspend specific privileges within a club, without suspending all access. That's the only case where suspension would make sense where ban would be odd.
You can't "suspend" access when access is available to the general public. You suspend a privilege that's not the default. It doesn't make sense to suspend something that is the default. Taking away access requires proactively preventing it, not removing a membership.
That's what a "Ban" here and at reddit means. You can still access and see the sub or community, it's only your post and comment privileges that get Suspended.
In Games a "Ban" means your access to play online with others is Suspended, not your access to use any single player modes or features.
You're missing the point. I'm saying that there are contrived situations where there are privileges that are not access that you could suspend without the word "ban" making sense.
Any case where you block access to anything for any length of time can correctly be defined as a ban.
But would more correctly (specifically) be defined as Suspend.
Like on a multiple choice test question with two answers that are "correct", one is more specific, and thus the "right" answer.
No it wouldn't. Ban is exactly, perfectly, correct.
If you considered taking points off for ban on a multiple choice test you're a bad teacher with a flawed understanding of the language.
That's not how tests work.
A test that punishes a correct answer is wrong, and yes, it's entirely reasonable and not uncommon to have multiple valid answers that are accepted, or for a decent teacher to have a student point out "this answer was right" and allow anyone else who gave the same answer to get the points back as well.
I made that same argument countless times in school. I can count on one hand the number of times a teacher agreed with me.
Than you had a mediocre education.
That's not how competent teachers work.
Edit: was too asshole-y. He can't control bad teachers unwilling to admit their mistakes.
A lot of bans are permanent. The word is used inclusively. At the moment you are banning someone, you may not especially care to reassure them it will only be temporary. You may not even have decided if it’s temporary or not. And anyway bans can be lifted. There is no hard requirement of permanence in that word. So no, it doesn’t bother me as it seems to bother you.
That makes sense. Thank you for giving an actual answer.
I've been temporarily banned in real life before. I had a sip of a friend's drink at the campus bar while I was underage and they banned me for a year.
Sorry. I replied to the wrong comment.