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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau opposed any deal letting Russia keep Ukrainian land, saying it would encourage other countries to break international rules.

Speaking to a NATO meeting, he highlighted Canada’s $19.5 billion aid to Ukraine and stressed the need to defend global stability.

Trudeau defended his plan to raise military spending to 2% of GDP by 2032 after criticism of Canada’s low defense funding.

He warned against isolating Ukraine, saying continued support is crucial to stop further global conflicts.

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[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 53 points 3 weeks ago

Agree 100% we can't rely on our rich bi-polar brother in the methlab of a house next door to protect us anymore.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

As one of those rich bipolar methlab brothers, save yourself while you can

[-] index@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 weeks ago

You need protection from greedy politicians and the military industry sucking in public money and fueling wars.

[-] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Finland has a pretty absurdly strong military. It really is a waste of money. But it has this military because it shares a border with Russia. If Finland did not have such a military, it would be invaded. That is what empires do. Finland's military does not start war; it prevents it.

Ideally, neither side would have to waste money on this military, but until Russia gives up theirs, Finland can't give up theirs either. Good luck convincing Russia to do that.

Not long ago, I would have been in total agreement with you. The very idea of stealing land through invasion was so antiquated to me that I did not believe even Russia would do it until the moment their troops crossed the Ukrainian border. Now, I reluctantly am forced to conclude that not only is Russia that backward, it probably always was, and the only reason Finland has been safe all these years is because of the military that I thought was so absurd.

[-] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

If Finland did not have such a military, it would be invaded.

That's a speculation you are making, russia spend 20 times as much as finland does in war they wouldn't have much problems invading finland if it was all about military strength.

That is what empires do

That's true USA does the same.

Ideally, neither side would have to waste money on this military, but until Russia gives up theirs, Finland can’t give up theirs either.

While finland spend less than russia NATO combined spend 20 times as much as russia does in war. Do you see where your logic leads? To match USA alone russia would have to tenfold their military budget.

[-] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Sure Russia could beat Finland in an invasion, eventually, but due to Finland's army, it would be far more trouble than it's worth. And let's leave the USA out of this.

Buuuut for as long as we're not leaving the USA out of this, it is worth pointing out that Mexico and Canada do not live in constant fear of being invaded. Finland does, and this fear of invasion is very rational.

[-] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

These figures require sources.

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