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Removal of piracy communities (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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Earlier, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were:

We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assistance in obtaining it.

This decision is about liability and does not mean we are otherwise hostile to any of these communities or their users. As the Lemmyverse grows and instances get big, precautions may happen. We will keep monitoring the situation closely, and if in the future we deem it safe, we would gladly reallow these communities.

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

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[-] mo_ztt@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

This is the internet, everyone is given shit. You are giving me shit, I am giving you shit. The shit is eternal and infinite. You will give and be given shit for the rest of your time on the internet, and so will everyone else. There is no shitless internet as long as you participate.

You’ll come to conclusions that support your biases, I’ll come to the opposite conclusions that support mine, and we’ll both give each other shit from the comfort of our custom tailored echo machines.

This isn't accurate. If this is the nature of your internet communities, I would encourage you to find different communities. It does seem to me that lemmy.world is becoming this type of community, yes, and I have a somewhat-solidifying plan to leave because of it. There are definitely Lemmy instances where an announcement like this wouldn't be met with hundreds of downvotes and people threatening to leave or predicting the downfall of Lemmy as a result (not this instance, but Lemmy as a whole, I think probably because they're not real clear on the difference.)

My reaction to the comments on this announcement is not intended to "give anyone shit." I don't plan to add anything negative to the discussion unless I feel like I have to in order to be honest about my view.

I can pretty much promise you that I'm trying to be open to what you say and evaluate it honestly and engage with you in good faith, although I'll definitely disagree with you on some things. IDK if you believe that, but it's true. If you have no plans to do the same, we don't need to talk. If you're coming at this with the idea that we're supposed to be "giving each other shit" in some big bad-faith waste of time... IDK, man, I think it'd be better for you if you approached it differently, whether or not you think the other person's going to do the same.

[-] Odusei@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The response is so overwhelmingly negative because these are communities that exist on all other social media sites. Lemmy.world has gone far beyond any legal requirement (likely because there is no one running this instance with any understanding of the law whatsoever) and kicked people out who were breaking no laws on this site. Of course that’s going to engender a wildly negative response.

Nobody collects statistics on the reasons people break copyright laws for what should be obvious reasons: people don’t want to break laws publicly and go on record as doing it. Those that would are likely to skew data in some way, as they’re the dumb pirates.