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[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 116 points 1 month ago

Wasn't expecting this under a random unrelated post. A very welcome comment nonetheless.

Never forget that the exponential boom of renewable energy tech the last 20 years has entirely served as additional energy, not as replacement of fossil fuels.

[-] oo1@lemmings.world 23 points 1 month ago

Unexpected but entirely welcome.

People do forget this all too often.

Cheaper stuff, use more , value less.

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Source?

In the EU at least this is demonstrably false. LNG has slightly risen since 2000 but other fossil fuels (namely coal) have gone way down. Total consumption has been steadily declining in the past few years and is down to 2004 levels. So overall our electricity is a whole shitload cleaner.

The story is even starker for domestic heating. Gas and coal are vanishing since the mid-2000s.

[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why would you assume I am talking about Europe which accounts for 1/10 of the global energy consumption and why would I be talking the continent that has mostly outsourced its heavy industry to third world countries? Why would you assume this?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-primary-energy?time=2000..latest

Here's your source. Here's your total energy consumption. It couldn't have been that hard to look at our world in data right? How can you be so absolutely wrong about data in plain sight while being confident about it? Do you have an agenda?

[-] Orygin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox.
Edit: the other comment below mentioning this did not load initially..

[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 2 points 1 month ago

20 years ago there were 2000000000 fewer people in the world.

[-] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

too many zeroes I can't read that number omg

[-] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 1 points 1 month ago

That was my point

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