The Anti-Corruption Foundation, which criticizes Putin and is reputed to be the best independent pollster in Russia, just did a poll in Germany & France. It asked: who's responsible for starting the Ukraine war?
Here's Germany's result:
Here are the polling numbers from France:
It appears that both in Germany and France, more people believe that the US is responsible for starting the war in Ukraine than believe that Putin is responsible.
Leonid Volkov of the Anti-Corruption Foundation claims that these numbers show how effective Putin's propaganda is in Germany & France.
This is a laughable explanation of the numbers given that populations of Germany and France are exposed to US propaganda to a far greater degree than they are exposed to Russian propaganda. In fact, much of Russian media is even banned in EU at this point.
One can only imagine what these numbers would look like if the populations of Germany and France were not being bombarded with US government propaganda about the origins of the Ukraine war.
What having to pay for the electric bill will do to an mf
turns out that no amount of propaganda can compete with the material conditions people experience
I wouldn't entirely discount propaganda here; even on that poll, there's people that clearly experienced the same material conditions but bought into the "dae Putler dae Russians are orcs" propaganda.
For sure, world class propaganda machine is basically what allowed this war to go on for as long as it did.
It takes a lot of guts for a multi-millionaire politician to tell the common people "you're gonna have to make do with austerity because we decided for you that we need to beat the russians" at least I can recognize that